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To: truth_seeker
What are you reading, considering, and compiling? BATF reports heavily influenced by SPLC and DOJ sources out to prove the domestic terrorist meme? What are the chances that there are 170 people in Texas who should be held on a 1 million dollar bond, and that you'd get them all in the same place? Why do images show bodies next to their bikes, overturned bikes? (Shot while trying to escape?) Why were the police there in full swat gear, ready for a war?

How many informants did the police have in the Cossacks, the Banditos? Were they agents provocateur?

Why weren't the videos released immediately, as with situations where force by police was justified?

Where are the images of the shot-up vehicles the police were hiding behind? Not so much as a broken window.

Where are the statements from the wounded (bikers, not police, who apparently did not even stub a toe)?

This reeks of an ambush.

Now, I'm not hurling insults, and I have asked some serious questions.

I expect that by the time any real evidence is provided, any Brady Material (look that one up, its a good term) will have been buried.

In the meantime, the police want 170 million in bail money, have motorcycles worth a minimum of 1.7 million dollars (average of 10,000/bike), which is likely low by a factor of 2. Not to mention anything and everything else seized. There are 9 dead bodies they have to explain away in order to keep the goodies.

Yet they will be the ones doing the investigating. Maybe, just maybe there is a slight conflict of interest.

379 posted on 05/27/2015 6:38:32 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Now, I’m not hurling insults, and I have asked some serious questions.”

And for that I commend you.


381 posted on 05/27/2015 7:11:54 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Smokin' Joe
In the meantime, the police want 170 million in bail money

Correction...its the courts not the police which determine the bail amounts and gets to keep the money if the arrested person skips out.

398 posted on 05/28/2015 6:01:13 AM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Smokin' Joe; mac_truck; TexasGator; truth_seeker

“This reeks of an ambush.”

I have done a lot of rereading of information since this thread was live. It seems clear, it WAS an ambush, by the Bandidos against the Cossacks. From three to five Cossacks were shot by Bandidos. Then LE opened fire to protect gang members from members of other gangs.

Sources are widely available. Many, including analysis, are posted by conservativetreehouse. Read all the details with an open, inquiring mind.

No I do not think gang members were firing on cops. After reading and rereading all this several times, cops fired to protect the public at large, many of whom were gang members. If the cops had not been there, what would the body count have been? If the cops were there for a true turkey shoot, what would the body count have been? No one knows, but it is worth reflecting upon.

The cops were outnumbered approx. 10 to 1. That is not good odds. Yet they showed up to limit the carnage and according to some testimony, including that of a mother whose son was killed in the melee, the cops saved lives by being there, which is why they were there.

The bulk of the details thus far, shows 3 to 5 Cossacks and allies killed by Bandidos.

Don’t trust the Cossack testimony? If there were three bodies in the parking lot which match the names of the three Cossacks he observed were shot by Bandidos there, his testimony is accurate. Meaning, it was a set up by the Bandidos against the Cossacks, and LE merely limited the carnage. So please let me know of contradictory evidence.

I know there are people out there who will call people names for posting something like this. But I have read the reports, and the above scenario cannot be dismissed — especially since the detractors of these accounts have nothing more to offer than “the cops did it.”


417 posted on 05/28/2015 2:07:33 PM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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