Not all MC's are the Pagans. But you're evidently a douchebag who thinks they are.
Why don't you come to the FF memorial this fall and tell the folks loudly riding in with colors what you "think"?
Posted on 05/26/2015 7:09:58 PM PDT by mac_truck
An attorney for two men arrested in the May 17 Twin Peaks shootout between rival bikers says his clients are being held illegally and is seeking to replace all McLennan County judges connected to the case.
Austin attorney Adam Reposa alleges in motions filed Tuesday that the charging documents filed against his clients, and the 168 others jailed in the chaotic melee, are legally insufficient.
He also claims that the $1 million bonds are unreasonably oppressive and that the judge who set them and the judges who, so far, have not reduced them have shown bias and should be recused.
Reposa represents Jimmy Pond and Thomas Paul Landers. He said Pond, a mechanic from Hays County, is the sole supporter of his family, which includes a disabled wife and autistic son.
Besides the recusal motion, Reposa filed an application for writ of habeas corpus, alleging a client is being held illegally and without proper cause, and a motion for emergency release so Pond can go home and take care of his family.
After the shootout, in which nine were killed and 18 wounded, Reposa said officials “commandeered” the Waco Convention Center as a makeshift holding area while they tried to sort out the magnitude of the event.
(Excerpt) Read more at wacotrib.com ...
“Maybe the benefit in the future will be “good guy” individuals and groups, will be less inclined to associate, lend respectability and cover, to “bad guy” groups.”
This is my true hope as well as yours. Thank you for your observations. Any good guys in the bad groups, need to disassociate ASAP if not sooner! There is true terrorism and horror bestowed on Texas border counties by these outlaws. Maybe (the mere associators) have not realized how they are complicit, but we cannot let them live in benighted ignorance.
Thank you for your analysis, I also seek truth.
“Interesting you’d call in the troops”
There are people whose opinions I value.
“One can only imagine how things might have escalated if the police weren’t there to squash it.”
The more I have read and reread, the more it supports that conclusion.
The police had nothing to gain from being there, being outnumbered ~ 10 to 1 by known outlaw gang members. Except that it was their job to be there.
Upon analysis by my military mind [OK proud US Army retiree!], I have to admit it was a pretty good LE response / operation. Mind you, I was taken in by all the emotional descriptions early on, too. But when you take away the emotional descriptions and look at the facts . .
. . . LE had intel of something going down.
They showed up anyway, vastly outnumbered;
they weren’t hiding, the vehicles alone showed they were there.
. . . yes some of them were not in the best physical shape
but they somehow managed, in a few seconds, to stop the carnage.
It does also seem to me that some of those arrested might be more innocent than others. Yet the bail is due to the District Attorney and Judge, not the cops.
Upon serious reflection after much reading and analysis, this seems to have been a pretty good LE operation. I would not have wanted my husband to go out there and face those odds on a Sunday.
I am interested in facts and analysis. The ones I pinged have posted facts and info and if I have gotten something wrong, I trust one or more of them will call me out on it in the interest of accuracy. You and anyone else on FR are of course also welcome to provide information for analysis.
Servus, of course.
“Interesting you’d call in the troops to render your opinion. “
Interesting you would think anybody called me in, because nobody did call me in.
I had a minor surgery yesterday afternoon, slept through the night, got up checked this thread, and wrote out my own opinion.
Adult style. No name calling. Just the substance (unless attacked).
Well, the post indicates that you were indeed pinged to his rendering of his opinion to me. I’d say you and the others listed there were ‘called in’. Whether or not you saw that is another issue.
“Well, the post indicates that you were indeed pinged to his rendering of his opinion to me. I’d say you and the others listed there were ‘called in’. Whether or not you saw that is another issue.”
Your involvement seems aimed at arguing with or about posters, whereas my interest is with the developing knowledge base about the case.
Have a nice day. BTW was there anything of interest to you in my remarks? You know, substance.
How many bikers do you actually know?
If you mean people that own and ride motorcycles, plenty. One lives next door. If you mean members of MCs, none, and I really don’t care to.
>>If you mean members of MCs, none, and I really don’t care to.
Uhuh. And your opinion of MC’s is informed by what, exactly?
See 410.
I see you.
Are all MC’s outlaw, moron?
Are you in a motorcycle club?
Are all project residents gang members? Are a all muslims in Dearborn terrorists? No, but I don’t associate with them either. Doubt you do for similar reasons.
One of that artifacts my Dad left behind from his LEO days is a 9” sheath knife inscribed with the name of the biker from whom he confiscated during the festivities back circa 1968.
He taught me to know the difference between outlaw MC’s, and the loud mouths who don’t.
I noticed, however, you passed right over my counterpoint. Like it or not, we all discern based on information that may or may not apply across the board. At least be honest about that.
Not all MC's are the Pagans. But you're evidently a douchebag who thinks they are.
Why don't you come to the FF memorial this fall and tell the folks loudly riding in with colors what you "think"?
Or you could just STFU.
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