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To: TigersEye

Let me reply to each of your points:

1) The “no fly zone” was a violation of Iraq’s sovereign territory. The US has no more right to declare a no fly zone over the sovereign territory of another nation than other nations have to do the same in the USA. I would hope that if China declared a no fly zone over the portions of the USA we would be shooting down the military aircraft seeking to enforce the zone.
2) The UN is a paper tiger and is only used as an excuse for imperialism when it suits the power desiring to exercise military power. If the UN has legitimacy you should support every UN resolution including those on Palestine, the environment, “human rights”, regulation of firearms. Do you?
3. The US has assassinated and attempted the assassination of foreign leaders for the last 100 years. Our current president assassinates US citizens without due process of law.
4. The US Army slaughtered Native Americans by the tens of thousands. The US government, as late as the 1950’s, secretly conducted experiments on American servicemen and citizens exposing them to harmful radiation and disease without their knowledge. Many died. What is the difference? Also, on what authority did the United States become the protector of the Marsh Arabs? There was no treaty approved by the Senate.
5. What about Israel’s nuclear program? What about South Africa’s, North Korea’s, Libya’s, or even the US, Russian, Chinese, Pakistani, Indian, and French programs? What entitles some nations to have nuclear weapons and others to not be allowed nuclear capability?
6. How many other nations have biological weapons, including the US? Again, what entitles some to have those weapons while others are denied?
7. Same issue as #5 and #6.
8. What is the difference between Sadaam cooperating with terrorists and the US providing weapons to the Afghans in the 1980’s or supplying arms around the world to various nations and groups engaged in genocide? If

You mentioned we were under a state of war with Iraq, under a cease fire. As I recall the US invaded Iraq in 1990, without any threat to our homeland. In fact the US Armed Forces were a mercenary force, paid for by the Gulf States. The US was interfering in a war between Iraq and Kuwait. This was another selective engagement of US forces. Why did we intervene in that conflict and not the Iraq/Iran War a few years before in which both countries were using chemical weapons?

As to Sadaam killing 500,000 people — What justifies the invasion of Iraq when we sat by and allowed Stalin and Mao to kill millions, Castro to kill tens of thousands only 90 miles from our shore, Pol Pot to kill tens of thousands, not to mention the ongoing killing of hundreds of thousands in Africa? How many have been killed in North Korea while we sat by doing nothing? The US is not the world’s policeman.

The US has been intervening in the Middle East since the 1940’s with nothing to show for it except the hatred of the people in the region, the squandering of billions, if not trillions of dollars, and the wast of the blood of American soldiers.

What gives the US the right to intervene militarily in other nations (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq) when those nations have not attacked our soil and pose no imminent threat. One day the shoe will be on the other foot. How will we feel when Chinese or Russian planes fly overhead and foreign troops occupy our cities?


16 posted on 05/26/2015 4:06:41 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Soul of the South
1) The “no fly zone” was a violation of Iraq’s sovereign territory. The US has no more right to declare a no fly zone over the sovereign territory of another nation than other nations have to do the same in the USA.

They would if they had won a war against us and there was a declared cease fire meaning that a state of war still existed. No further reply to your rebuttals required after that lame point.

Why don't you move your un-American ass to Cuba or Venezuela?

17 posted on 05/26/2015 4:24:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: Soul of the South

The no-fly zones were a condition of the Gulf War armistice. The victorious belligerents, when not demanding unconditional surrender, are free to demand any terms for an armistice. As such, the Ba’athist government had ceded that part of its sovereignty to stay in power, and attacks on U.S. and allied planes enforcing the no-fly zones were a violation of the armistice and sufficient cause for the resumption of hostilities.


20 posted on 05/26/2015 5:44:19 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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