Posted on 05/23/2015 5:30:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
Nuclear power plant technicians, senior military officers, FBI contractors and an employee of “a highly-secretive Department of Defense agency” with a Top Secret clearance. Those are just a few of the more than 100 people with sensitive military and government connections that law enforcement is tracking because they are linked to “outlaw motorcycle gangs.”
A year before the deadly Texas shootout that killed nine people on May 17, a lengthy report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives detailed the involvement of U.S. military personnel and government employees in outlaw motorcycle gangs, or OMGs. A copy of the report was obtained by The Intercept.
The report lays out, in almost obsessive detail, the extent to which OMG members are represented in nearly every part of the military, and in federal and local government, from police and fire departments to state utility agencies. Specific examples from the report include dozens of Defense Department contractors with Secret or Top Secret clearances; multiple FBI contractors; radiological technicians with security clearances; U.S. Department of Homeland Security employees; Army, Navy and Air Force active-duty personnel, including from the special operations force community; and police officers.
(Excerpt) Read more at firstlook.org ...
This “report” if true, covers about the first 30 seconds of the mayhem. No mention of the po po, even though per LEO, 14 officers fired their weapons.
” I haven’t even heard of any police being reprimanded.”
They have been taken off-duty.
Incorrect, you lying tin-plate-dictator wannabe. You infer, incorrectly, and stick with your distorted, disabled-hating viewpoint -- that the mere posting of disabled lovers' pictures with a neutral caption is somehow 'ridicule'.
This speaks to YOUR viewpoint of the disabled, not mine.
“I intend to watch you, too.”
The brown bear rushing through the bushes caused a rush but now I know what real fear is!
Fairly sure...
But, there are very few things that I am 100% certain about.
:-)
“Incorrect, you lying tin-plate-dictator wannabe. You infer, incorrectly, and stick with your distorted, disabled-hating viewpoint — that the mere posting of disabled lovers’ pictures with a neutral caption is somehow ‘ridicule’.”
Stating the obvious is not a kangaroo court. I told you I would not cite you for abuse. I only asked you as a decent person to have it pulled.
You are on the radar.
Good post.
People have written about the bikers, good — bad — and some probably in between.
People have written, mostly negatively, about law enforcement.
One thing left out is the community of greater Waco, TX. Around 250,000 people that hired law enforcement, to keep law & order.
Motorcycle criminals disrupt order. Assume there were 200 bikers, and assume there were 160 of them that are generally law abiding.
If I lived in Waco, I would tell the 160 to take their get-together someplace else. And I would expect my police force to watch the bikers, even to suggest they take their get-together someplace else.
Law enforcement is not the reason for the ongoing feud between Banditos and Cossacks. The reason is the biker culture, which Waco residents want to be kept away from them.
One reason good guys ride with the bad guys, is for vicarious thrills. It is sort of measured risk taking. An assumption they can go out for a ride that day, and not have a horrible experience simply because they didn’t stay well clear of the bad guys.
I believe the high bail is the way law enforcement and the judicial system in Texas sends a message to the good guys; think twice next time, before you risk the safety of innocents in our jurisdiction.
Murder and mayhem are part of outlaw biker culture. Why a truly law abiding motorcycle enthusiast would want any association with the bad guys escapes me.
Why anybody would take the side of a handful of bad guys, versus the law abiding people of the community and their law enforcement officials, escapes me.
I have seen no evidence of wrongdoing by law enforcement, just anti-cop BS. The kind of thing small time conspiracy theory people would want to spread, for their books and websites.
Meanwhile the cops go out in the REAL WORLD and put themselves in REAL DANGER, so the grownup children could safely bang away on their keyboards.
The same people that would praise a cop for risking his safety to control an inner city riot, will deride cops for risking his safety to control a Waco Texas criminal biker confab.
On the third one, I could not resist. Have a nice one.
You want me to pull a post in which I said nothing negative and posted a sweet image of two disabled people in love, because YOU have a negative impression of it — based, entirely on YOUR negative stereotypes?
Get stuffed, fascist.
And learn to appreciate the disabled.
Are you claiming anything other than standard procedure in an officer involved shooting?
Dow you know how many officers fired? How many rounds? At what distance? With what type of weapon? That should be all known at this point.
So, what are sub-humans? Are they below human? Are they to be denied human rights?
“Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Those who got arrested and granted bail, are getting their due process. In the end I expect most will be released.
Perhaps their minor inconvenience, while police and judicial officials conduct their investigations, might inform them of the risks of associating with known criminals, who take murder and mayhem on their rides, who sell drugs in our communities.
They ought to seriously consider if the vicarious thrill of riding with the outlaws, of providing cover and respectability to the outlaws, is worth the price.
“I dunno. I have a pretty good track record for outing and getting trolls eliminated.”
I know the tactic well.
Against FR policy smear and slur them to no end.
Against FR policy stalk them to no end.
Against FR policy slander them in threads they are not involved in.
Do all this till someone gets upset and finally loses it ...
And then hit the abuse button.
As I said before I have seen the world and I laugh at your juvenile personal attacks. Have fun.
I shall read your posts, and respond to them, as is my right -- nay, my responsibility!
Without law we have anarchy, we have the devil stalking the earth, picking us off one by one, the weak and strong alike. We are all vulnerable at times. It is not only justice; in the end it is survival itself.
Without law, who will protect the mother and child who are tomorrow's strength? Who will protect the geniuses of the mind, the inventor, the artist who enriches the world but has not the power of money or physical ability to defend himself? Who will protect the wise who are old, and might fall victim to the powerful and foolish?
Indeed who will protect the strong from themselves?
— “Farriers’ Lane” by Anne Perry
“Why a truly law abiding motorcycle enthusiast would want any association with the bad guys escapes me.”
Each club has to pay dues to the ‘Confederation’. All the confederations are run by the ‘club’ in charge.
All the ‘clubs’ in charge just happen to have names like:
Hell’s Angels
Outlaws
Mongols
The good bikers have to pay extortion money just to ride and show their colors.
I keep having the feeling here that the dudes here are either ashamed to admit it or they are benefiting from the arrangement.
“Hit the abuse button all you want, troll. It will merely alert the moderators to your presence”
I have hit the abuse button the exact number of times that I want ...
ZERO times.
Please with the rhetoric. You can relax. I have said that I am NOT going to hit the abuse button on you.
You're the troll here.
You will eventually be found out; they always are.
“So, what are sub-humans? Are they below human? Are they to be denied human rights?”
Humans have the right to life, liberty and happiness. Humanity has determined that certain type that have no regard for other’s rights should be denied their right to life, liberty and happiness.
It’s called civilization.
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