“Are the Hells Angels and Bandidos clubs or gangs?”
They would probably both claim publicly to be clubs, with all the respectability and credibility that classification would give them.
Clever. The bad guys stand to gain respectability from associating with good guys, and the good guys may gain some measure of vicarious adrenaline, from associating with questionable guys.
Looks to me like that is how it works out, good, bad or indifferent.
Didn’t the Cossacks show up without an invite, start to come inside, when the fight started?
Maybe wives and families of the good guys (locked up with $high bails), will rethink having these meets with the bad guys.
The bad guys stand to gain respectability from associating with good guys, and the good guys may gain some measure of vicarious adrenaline, from associating with questionable guys.
The arrogance you display in that assumption, of "vicarious adrenaline," speaks volumes. You need to change your screen name because it's way off the mark. Maybe to something like "Template Sap."