Posted on 05/21/2015 2:23:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
A few steps from the Capitol building on Tuesday afternoon, behind closed doors in Republicans upscale Capitol Hill Club, Scott Walker had a high-stakes sit-down.
The Wisconsin governorwhos indicated that he will launch a presidential bid after he signs the Badger States biennial budgetwas there to woo top social conservative and evangelical leaders, a task that might seem easy at first glance. Walkers dad is a pastor, he quotes a Christian devotional on the stump, and he signed legislation defunding Planned Parenthood in the state he governs. Christian conservatives should be worshipping the ground he walks on, right?
Not so fast. The governor has made a string of comments on social conservatives top issues that has earned him some suspicion, and even ire. Last June, a few months before Election Day 2014, Walker had an awkward press conference about same-sex marriage. A district court judge had overturned the states constitutional amendment preventing same-sex marriage, and reporters were pressing the governor about his stance on the issue, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reports.
It doesnt really matter what I think now, Walker said.
I dont comment on everything out there, he added.
Thats not the kind of answer that opponents of same-sex marriage like to hear. And it came after the governor defended the states law keeping employers from discriminating against LGBT people, suggesting to Bloomberg in 2013 that it gave the state a healthy balance. One top social conservative leader in Wisconsin told me later that Walker must only have supported the non-discrimination law because he doesnt fully understand some of the ramifications of ENDA legislation.
Walker also raised eyebrows in 2014 when he ran an ad about his stance on abortion, defending legislation that leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor and saying that while he was pro-life, reasonable people can disagree on this issue. Among national pro-life advocates, that line went over like a lead balloon.
So when Walker headed to Capitol Hill to try to win conservative hearts and minds, the leaders in attendance had lots of questions. One attendee said that about 50 top social conservative and evangelical leaders were present, including Penny Nance of Concerned Women for America, Marjorie Dannenfelser of the Susan B. Anthony List, Brian Brown of National Organization for Marriage, Michael Needham of Heritage Action, and Brent Bozell of the Media Research Center.
Dannenfelser said Walker brought up his 2014 abortion ad before being asked.
He felt very quoted out of context, very misunderstood, she said. He said there was a snippet of the ad used that did not convey the full meaning, and his communication was using the other sides language but with the idea of forging common ground on ultrasound, because hes a true believer on that.
Walker signed legislation in 2013 requiring both that women seeking abortions get ultrasounds first and that the doctors who perform abortions have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals. Dannenfelser said he defended his use of the phrase leaves the final decision to a woman and her doctor as a way of co-opting pro-choice rhetoric for the pro-life cause.
To the extent that we use the other sides rhetoric to undermine their positions, were better off, Dannenfelser added.
She said she was impressed with Walkers way of talking about abortion.
Its the whole style of communication and content of communication that you want to see moving into a presidential cycle that will make it different from 2012, she said.
The Susan B. Anthony List, she said, is more interested in Walkers legislative accomplishments than his rhetoric, and the governor assured the meeting attendees that he would sign legislation banning abortion after 20 weeks. For pro-life leaders, thats huge. If Walker signs the billwhich Wisconsin Republicans introduced this monththen hell underscore his dedication to the pro-life cause. But if the legislation fails to make it through the Republican-controlled state legislature and to his desk, his reputation as a politician who can net big conservative wins could suffer.
He has an opportunity to authenticate his stated convictions, and I have every belief that hell do that, Dannenfelser said.
My view is that he gets it and hes got good people around him, and were in good shape, she added.
Other meeting attendees were cagier. Nance emailed to confirm that she attended.
I think it went well, she said.
Then I asked if she had thoughts about his stance on same-sex marriage.
I think people are still trying to discern, she replied.
Brown was similarly coy about whether Walker has taken a strong enough stance on the question of marriage. He said many of his allies were unhappy with the comments Walker made after the overturn of the states marriage amendment.
That was very disappointing, Brown said of Walkers response. But the reality is hes come out and endorsed a federal marriage amendment.
Brown added that his group will issue a pledge on the issue in the coming months to let potential presidential contenders clearly denote where they stand on marriage.
We are meeting with folks from a number of potential presidential campaigns and folks that have already put their hat in the ring, he continued, and the reality is what were seeing in Iowa and across the country is the myth that somehow the same-sex marriage debate is over is just that, its a myth.
So Walkers closed-door meeting doesnt seem to have backfired. But it isnt yet clear whether he made converts.
Babies will be saved because he signs this, but you say it is wrong for him to sign it?
And you’re up the creek without a paddle.
That’s a Utilitarian mirage. Babies won’t be saved by surrendering the only two moral, constitutional, and legal arguments against abortion. All they’re doing, in fact, is assuring the continuation of abortion on demand. Especially since they are also judicial supremacists.
Liberal elite garbage...
I know about all the "pro-life credentials" touted by these candidates. They're pathetic, and most of it also in effect ends with "and then you can kill the baby." Which is immoral and unconstitutional. Why would I be impressed by that?
Nothing is being surrendered. Babies are being saved as we move forward.
Abortion on demand is continuing but the tide has been reversed.
In law, there are always more ways forward.
You take your victories as you can and press on.
Showcasing your piety, appears to be the only thing that impresses you.
Walker’s running for president.
No babies are being saved by surrendering the principle of God-given, unalienable rights and equal protection under the law. Again, that's a Utilitarian mirage. If it's a "step forward,' it's another step forward into the abyss. An abyss without equal protection for the supreme God-given, unalienable, individual right, without justice, without a Constitution, without commitment to the sacred oath of office, without security under the law for ourselves or our Posterity.
Folks who can't defend their position or their candidate often resort to such crude misdirection. But you should know better.
Not by immoral, unconstitutional, lawless "laws."
The only way to turn the tide is to demand that our representatives fulfill the first and most important obligation of their oaths, which is to secure the unalienable individual rights of the people, all of the people.
Walker believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.
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I'm wide open to a better argument than that. His words say one thing, his actions say another. I'm very far from a perfect Christian but wouldn't consider going to any homosexual celebration of any kind for any reason for any person. I just can't see it being justified in any situation.
I have not seen anything to say Cruz has attended any such event. I will be greatly disappointed if I find otherwise. Please let me know if you find something.
fwiw, I see Walker's (very) good points and in all likelihood will vote for him if he is the candidate. I will also lay off posting the same reply to your Walker posts.
All the best.
It the same old crap, different day. They have not changed their play since Hitler. Some of it is even older. If you know history, you know why are are saying and doing. The play is to kill Conservatives. It will be the same tomorrow.
You mean what is Cruz’s record in attending homosexual marriage events?
Events.
Events is entirely different, and especially events where there might be a homosexual there.
You, me, and the Pope go to events where homosexuals are at, but the issue is about Scott Walker attending homosexual marriage events.
Of course.
I don’t know why there was such a big kerfuffle when Cruz attended that fundraiser in Las Vegas.
Wow! You’d think he had committed a Cardinal sin being at a fundraiser hosted by a gay couple.
What did you think about that?
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