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To: redleghunter
Seems some Orthodox in the East did not get this memo:)

Goodness! An actual Protestant reference to the Orthodox Churches! :)

So... what are you implying, in your comment? Are you saying that the Orthodox are right? If so, on what basis? Do you say that simply because they seem to agree with the Protestant position (i.e. by sheer accident)? Or do you think that the Orthodox Churches have some sort of authority or weight, on this matter? I'm genuinely curious...

BTW: by all means, keep studying the teachings of the Orthodox Churches! If Protestants adopted all of their beliefs, they'd abandon a great many of their more silly (and dangerous) errors.
309 posted on 05/22/2015 8:58:19 AM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan; daniel1212; HossB86; metmom; Elsie; Gamecock
So... what are you implying, in your comment?

That the Orthodox clearly did not get 'that memo.' Or ignored it since they call themselves the OTC.

I find your approach a bit misleading. The article posted shows some grave problems in the Catholic church head shed. However, what the public observes on FR are quite a few Catholics who decide to defend the indefensible. There are ways to approach these grave matters without trying to defend a 'burning city.'

Here is one approach from LifeSite's John-Henry Westen:

From: ‘Massive confusion’ in wake of Vatican miscommunications, Synod requires clarification: LifeSiteNews co-founder (https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/massive-confusion-in-wake-of-vatican-miscommunications-synod-requires-clari)

Westen also pointed to the meeting last year between Pope Francis and Italy’s best-known pro-homosexual priest as a case where an opportunity to send a powerful message of mercy instead spread confusion, because of the lack of clarity.

During that meeting, the pope concelebrated mass with the priest and afterwards met with him and kissed his hands. Had the clarification come from the Vatican that the pope was calling the priest to repentance, said Westen, he and all the pro-life and pro-family leaders in the room would have rejoiced “with tears” at the meeting. But that clarification was not given. “The Holy Father made a beautiful gesture which was in all likelihood a call to repentance,” said Westen, “but when asked for a clarification we were not told it was a call to repentance.”

Westen quoted Christ’s statement from Luke 5, after the Pharisees criticized him for eating with sinners, as an example of such clarity. Christ had said: “I did not come for the just but for sinners, to call them to repentance.”

“Things have been misinterpreted by the media everywhere,” Westen continued, most famously Pope Francis’ statement, “Who am I to judge?”

“Most demonstrations in favor of gay 'marriage' have [this statement on posters], it is on T-shirts. It needs to be clarified. The media doesn’t help at all because the media is on the other side and uses the Pope’s words to bash Catholic activists in America and all over the West. The clarity we need is so important and still needs to be done.”

‘Massive confusion’ in wake of Vatican miscommunications, Synod requires clarification: LifeSiteNews co-founder

There you go...Someone who is Catholic who knows "Vatican we have a problem" but yet uses language and argument to hold those who claim authority accountable. Westen is asking for CLARITY. Which is what the lay folk should expect from the shepherds? No?

311 posted on 05/22/2015 9:15:26 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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To: paladinan
BTW: by all means, keep studying the teachings of the Orthodox Churches! If Protestants adopted all of their beliefs, they'd abandon a great many of their more silly (and dangerous) errors.

BTW, nice of you to attempt to change the subject. We were discussing the homophile appointment.

312 posted on 05/22/2015 9:18:55 AM PDT by redleghunter (1 Peter 1:3-5)
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