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To: Georgia Girl 2; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ..
You either believe in the 10th amendment or you don’t. Its not just for easy choices.

Of course I believe in the 10th Amendment, though I am also acutely aware that the word "right" NEVER appears in it. People have rights, governments have powers granted by the people.

Nevertheless, I also believe the rest of the Constitution, to wit:

No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.
- Amendment V

Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
- Amendment XIV

You seem to believe that each stated DOES have the "right to deny a person due process and deprive them of their life.

Right now you have Roe v Wade which is considered “settled law” The chances of it getting overturned are practically zero.

It doesn't need to be "overturned" if we have elected officials who will actually abide by the Constitution.

I suggest you read Justice Blackmun's opinion in Roe, few people actually have and it is quite illuminating on "settled law" and what it says about killing persons.

Which would you rather have abortion in a few states or abortion in all states?

This was the same argument put forth a century and a half ago, "would you rather have slavery in a few states or slavery in all states?" It was a morally and unconstitutionally untenable proposition then and it remains so today.

Your "solution" would mean that the only thing standing between a person's life and death was the location of its mother and her willingness to travel if necessary.

The pro-choice-by-state approach is nothing more than the libertarian version of "I'm personally opposed, but..." They know full well that well over 95% of abortions are performed in states that fully intend to keep it legal if given the option.

The "right" that Rand Paul, and it would appear you, want to enshrine is "settled law" that essentially states, "You can kill all the babies you want, but you might need to drive a couple hours to do it."

With gay marriage. We don’t want it in GA. NY I don’t care.

"I don't care" is basically the mantra of libertarianism. Libertarians are reluctant to show open support for the left's agenda, so they cloak it by claiming to not care.

40 posted on 05/20/2015 9:28:46 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins

Settled law.

LOL

There is no such thing as “settled law”. The law is always subject to NEW law. If abortion is ruled illegal in the future, will that be settled law ?

NOBODY has a right to murder. That people currently are not prosecuted for it is an evil which can be overturned in the future. As for so-called libertarians ? Go find a perfect world, inhabited by perfect people, and e mail me when you discover it.


43 posted on 05/20/2015 9:41:03 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; ...

The right to life, as Wagglebee has pointed out, is enshrined in the 5th amendment and the 14th amendment. It is the major right mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

Without “Life” all of the other arguments about states, choice, freedom, etc. are just so much jaw-boning.

Arbitrarily taking a life is the ultimate violation of the law of the universe, the law of Nature’s God. It should be evident to any thinking and/or moral creature that life is the penultimate right.

Life is not a right that states can violate if they wish. It cannot be violated at all except in accord with very strict provisions regarding trials, courts, due process, etc.

What crime has the baby committed? What trial have they had? What hearing? What accusers stepped forward?

Why is that baby’s life taken?

Rand Paul sounds more and more like his lunatic dad as each month goes by.


44 posted on 05/20/2015 9:41:58 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wagglebee

bump


51 posted on 05/20/2015 10:03:03 AM PDT by GeronL (NEW ARRIVALS -> 99 cents buy here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/541331)
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