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Amtrak Train May Have Been Struck Before It Derailed, Officials Say
New Yoirk Times ^ | May 15, 2015 | DAVE PHILIPPS and EMMA G. FITZSIMMONS

Posted on 05/15/2015 4:20:44 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey

PHILADELPHIA — An assistant conductor on the Amtrak train that derailed on Tuesday believes she heard the engineer tell another regional train operator in a radio transmission that the train had been struck by something just before the accident, according to the National Transportation Safety Board.

At a news conference on Friday, Robert L. Sumwalt, the safety board official who is leading the investigation, said the F.B.I. had been asked to examine what he described as a fist-size impact area found on the lower left side of the train’s windshield. Officials said that the F.B.I. had been called in because it has the forensics expertise needed for the investigation, but that it had not yet begun its analysis.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amtrak; amtrakinvestigation; derailment; philadelphia; train; trainwreck
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To: MeshugeMikey
...a fist-size impact area found on the lower left side of the train’s windshield...

So the broken glass obscured the engineer's field of vision, which prevented him from swerving to avoid something on the tracks? /s

281 posted on 05/16/2015 5:58:21 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: MeshugeMikey

The in cab /car forward looking vehicle cams are typically located but inches from the w/s. Their position is not designed to see much of the total area of the w/s.


282 posted on 05/16/2015 5:59:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

nope they wouwldnt have much visual “coverage” of the train itself then I suspect.

Thank you.


283 posted on 05/16/2015 6:00:51 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey

We were struck by a rock that went through our windshield while driving on the highway going 50 mph. It didn’t cause us to speed up to twice our speed. Wonder why that happened to the train? S/s


284 posted on 05/16/2015 6:01:13 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Senator_Blutarski

yea yea thats it...thats the ticket


285 posted on 05/16/2015 6:01:21 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Ditter

the engineer was on crack?


286 posted on 05/16/2015 6:02:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Paladin2
http://74.242.208.192/scripts/archivefinder.pl?seltrain=188&selmonth=05&selyear=2015&selday=12

Link still works from my desktop, unless it still comes from the cache after multiple reloads. Your link on my tablet didn't....

287 posted on 05/16/2015 6:07:03 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MeshugeMikey

Sounds right!

The daughter of an acquaintance was on that train and was critically injured. Terrible terrible!


288 posted on 05/16/2015 6:07:41 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: MeshugeMikey
I believe this to be the forward looking cam on a p42 loco (left w/s - from driver's viewpoint)


289 posted on 05/16/2015 6:17:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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LAT: "Officials have focused on the train’s acceleration leaving Philadelphia. An analysis of the train data recorder and a camera set up in the locomotive showed the train rapidly and steadily increased its speed in the last 65 seconds before the crash.

Sumwalt said Thursday that the train was traveling above 70 mph at 65 seconds before impact. At 43 seconds before impact, it exceeded 80 mph. At 31 seconds, it had increased to 90 mph. Sixteen seconds before impact, it topped 100."

This camera video might be useful. Yep.

290 posted on 05/16/2015 6:20:33 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Own it.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

No, I do not work on the railroad. I like trains but not enough to stand by the tracks and record them. I can see and listen to all the trains I want from the comfort of my home, online.


291 posted on 05/16/2015 6:25:52 AM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: Ditter

only the most stable people should be given the responsibilty for the operation of “public “ “conveyances”. Ths clown doesnt appear to have even approached such a standard.

God bless you.


292 posted on 05/16/2015 6:27:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey
#601 in better days. Note the cam just under the w/s wiper on the left side of center.


293 posted on 05/16/2015 6:30:55 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2
thank you


294 posted on 05/16/2015 6:40:47 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: MeshugeMikey
I just spoke to someone who has had recent contact with the woman injured in the train wreck. She is still alive and her brain is intact but the entire left side of her body is crushed. She was in the second train car.

Pray for Gerylyns recovery.

295 posted on 05/16/2015 6:43:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: PAR35

The trains in the NE corridor are electric. But we have to stay on message that it wasn’t terrorism. Compare the condition of that car with the engine ahead and the cars behind. The explanation used for TWA 800 seems to work as well as any.


296 posted on 05/16/2015 7:23:20 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: MeshugeMikey

Oops. I posted my reply at 296 to myself, instead of to you.


297 posted on 05/16/2015 7:27:53 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35

SHOEBOMBER II coming to a front page near you....


298 posted on 05/16/2015 7:52:00 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: firebrand

That is a tall order.

With so many people involved in this thing, it would be very hard to hide a terrorist attack. Eventually it would leak out. They tried it in Benghazi and look what happened.


299 posted on 05/16/2015 9:33:51 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: caww
number one, that area could have just as easily and more probable been hit by a rock kicked up from the train crashing.

number two, that angle looks like the so called "shooter" would have been standing on the tracks to shoot straight in...

and number three, slowing down a train from 100 to 50 is a process, not done instantaneously..it would call for exerted effort to do it, and not just "moments"....

why was the train going that fast?....no one seems able to answer that question....

300 posted on 05/16/2015 9:39:02 AM PDT by cherry
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