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To: unlearner
Another example would be a post about a black employee (based on a posted photo) who failed to do a good job in which the person posting describes the employee as obviously the result of EOC. The problem with such comments is that we have no way of knowing if a particular person has a job based on merit or racial quotas. Comments like this demean all black people because there are a huge number of black professionals who do an incredible job in their work and should not be stereotyped by their skin pigmentation.

Stereotypes are earned, not given.

The reason so many, myself included, complain about the Affirmative Action hires is because we have so much experience in the matter, primarily dealing with AA hires who are in jobs that we know, but can't prove, they got based on something other than ability. That's normally skin color, gender, or in the case of the train driver who just klled 8, his imagined gender.

We know that because they often aren't even aware of what their job is, let alone how to do it.

We aren't here to please the Leftists, we are here to talk about things as they are, and one of the things that is, is that large numbers of dark skinned people get jobs that are based entirely on their dark skin.

It's also indisputable that Black people, generally, have significantly lower IQs than White people. That's scientific fact.

In order to shut off discussion of such things, the word racist is bandied about.

64 posted on 05/14/2015 7:14:57 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Is Ted Cruz himself as mean-spirited as the FR 'Click-it or Tick-it' Cruz Contingent?)
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To: Balding_Eagle

I’m not saying that it is inappropriate to point out that poor customer service resulted from EOE if that is known to be the reason in a specific case. The problem is when the stereotype is applied to individuals without evidence to support it.

Conservatism advocates individual responsibility rather than collectivism.

“It’s also indisputable that Black people, generally, have significantly lower IQs than White people. That’s scientific fact.”

I don’t have a problem with facts. The issue is whether they are used in a way that is useful and relevant.

If you were to use the above statistics to argue for encouraging more workforce development degrees as opposed to degrees that are more rigorous academically, rather than lowering the bar on such degrees in order to fill quotas, then that might be appropriate. But if such statistics are used to demean and insult an individual for being “stupid” because of his or her skin pigmentation, such “facts” have been misappropriated.

“In order to shut off discussion of such things, the word racist is bandied about.”

There are people who see everything in racial terms. These people often scream the most about racism.

However, just because some people use accusations of racism in order to shut down a conversation when they cannot win an argument by merit of fact, does not mean that racism is okay or does not exist. And it is specifically against FR policy to post racist comments. So I am fairly confident that there is a general consensus among Freepers and conservatives in general that racism does not represent our values or beliefs.

I agree with you though that we cannot allow the left to define what constitutes racism, because the left does not know what it is and is unable to end the entrenched racism of left wing policies.


65 posted on 05/15/2015 9:06:39 AM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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