Posted on 05/10/2015 10:59:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
Whatever her views on other matters are, Pamela Geller is right about one thing: last week’s Islamist assault on the “Draw Muhammad” cartoon contest she hosted in Texas proves the jihad against freedom of expression has opened a front in the United States. “There is,” she said, “a war on free speech and this violent attack is a harbinger of things to come.” Apparently undaunted, Geller promises to continue with such “freedom of speech” events. ISIS is now threatening to assassinate her. She and her cohorts came close to becoming victims, yet some in the media on the right and the center-right have essentially blamed her for the gunmen’s attack, just as far too many, last January, surreptitiously pardoned the Kouachi brothers and, with consummate perfidy to human decency, inculpated the satirical cartoonists they slaughtered, saying “Charlie Hebdo asked for it.”
No.
But first, allow me a brief yet illustrative digression.
No one can deny the nobility of the sentiment that prompted Ben Affleck, on Bill Maher’s “Real Time” last autumn, to rush to the defense of what he sees as an unjustly maligned Muslim population with his outburst, as heartfelt as it was misguided, that it was “gross” and “racist” of Maher and Sam Harris to denounce Islam as “the mother lode of bad ideas.” It seemed par for the course that Affleck followed the lead of so many progressives and conflated race and religion regarding Muslims. The semantically unsound rubbish concept of “Islamophobia” disorients well-meaning people and incites them to spout illogicalities with a preacher’s righteousness.
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I was so flummoxed that Saloon Mag would print such a piece I forget to include it in the posting.
Sorry
>>I was so flummoxed that Saloon Mag would print such a piece I forget to include it in the posting.
I think he succeeded in getting it published by including some attacks on Christianity and Judaism. But even with those, this was an extremely fair piece. I’d be quite happy if Progs would view islam with the same suspicion that they reserve for Christianity.
My minds remains blown.;-)
The Salon was entertaining the notion that there is something wrong and inherently evil about Islam, and Pam Geller is justified in going after any support of the jihadists may enjoy on the left.
Well. There may be some small glimmer of self-preservation going on over there on the left.
Just as long as THEY are not the ones who have to face them as they spring from the shadows.
"All those who, à la Reza Aslan, maintain that Muslims today do not necessarily read the Quran literally have lost the argument before it begins. What counts is that there are those (ISIS, say, and al-Qaida) who do, and they are taking action based on their beliefs. To the contention, “ISIS and al-Qaida don’t represent Islam!” the proper response is, “that’s what you say. They disagree.” No single recognized Muslim clerical body exists to refute them."
Brilliant piece!
Should be required reading for everyone.
It states the problem, but no solution - the author doesn’t identify core differences with Republican approaches. ie. the real enemy isn’t confronted.
>>You are probably correct, but it is still a tsunami size event to see liberals being criticized by Saloon for not seeing islam accurately.
>>My minds remains blown.;-)
Mine too. Some Progs are waking up and beginning to separate the economic part of Progressivism from the cultural destruction of the West that has been a major part of the Prog agenda for 50-60 years. The economic part has been around for more than a century and originally accepted the fact that western civilization was good, but it just needed more “economic fairness”. When that didn’t happen in a couple generations, the radical revolutionaries joined in and turned it in the civilization-hating mess that it has become today.
(I’m not agreeing with them. Just stating their history.)
>>It states the problem, but no solution - the author doesn’t identify core differences with Republican approaches. ie. the real enemy isn’t confronted.
Thee is no solution that includes the words Democrat or Republican. Those two things are part of the problem. Remember that the first time we ever heard “Islam is a religion of peace” after 9/11 was from a Republican.
Yes, amazing for Salon. I'm surprised that got past the editors.
I predict that it won’t be long before the author and the editors who permitted the piece go be published will be forced to grovel and beg forgiveness for having the temerity to speak anything resembling truthful words in Salon.
>>Just as long as THEY are not the ones who have to face them as they spring from the shadows.
I would bet serious money that the cop who revealed himself as a serious student and practitioner of pistolcraft by taking out the jihadis, is not a reader/supporter of Salon.
In other words, you’ve got that right!
Exactly right. Jihadists target Republicans and Democrats alike.
perhaps a few of the commie crowd are awakening to the fact that their IslamoNazi comrade allies...hate, abhor, want to kill.. the commie progressive socialist Transformation secularist crowd........even more than they hate and want to kill believing Christians and Jews.
which is really saying something...
>>Exactly right. Jihadists target Republicans and Democrats alike.
And Republicans and Democrats both use these attacks as a means to restrict the liberties and waste the tax dollars of the people of the US.
Ask the experts in the disappearing secular constitutional Republic of Turkey. They reject Islam’s dogma as part of government. Can secular Muslims be Islamophobes?
These images are from protests of about seven years ago -- everything went smoothly, an election was close and the Islamist Ergodan hadn't quite consolidated his power. The millions of protesters did not want Islamism and sharia law. Ergodan promised the voters ("Tac KEY yuh!") he'd respect Turkey's secular heritage.
About two years ago this series of protests began as opposition to a project in Istanbul -- protesters were assaulted by the police. article here Erdogan was much closer to the power Islamists seek. Today I've read that judges are threatened with jail if they rule against Erdogan.
The tens of millions of Muslims in a country of Muslims should know a thing or two about the scourge of Islamism and sharia. They reject it totally as part of government. But civil war? I think most doubt it will come to that.
Never count on a leftist to do anything of value. The Left is making a huge mistake in taking Islam under its wing, do not stop them from making this mistake.
That’s fine — as long as they keep the field of fire clear, that would be good. The first step would be to stop jostling elbows or trying to twist around the shooters as they are getting their sight picture set-up.
The comment section is fun - confused leftists trying to untangle themselves from their conflicting slogans. Some of them eventually resort to “No blood for oil!” or “Capitalism!”.
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