You come to these conclusions about my unbalanced, uninformed and distorted comments, yet it would appear you have spent a considerable amount of time addressing them. It might appear to the casual observer that perhaps my comments have some truth to them after all? I appreciate your lengthy reply, ironically the information you have provided seems to support my earlier comments.
Although there are those who would argue the fact, the Civil War was fought because of slavery, a form of judgement upon the nation, if you will. The problem stemming from that conflict is that as a nation, we quickly forgot the moral lesson that it taught.
The following is offered as an explanation of the thought process of those blacks being manipulated by racist agitators:
The argument, explanation, or excuse proffered by white people today, that they never owned slaves simply serves to ignore the fact that whites in America benefited and have continued to benefit from a system that was designed to benefit white people at the expense of non-whites. Slavery has been abolished for over 150 years, this is true. So now, we should all pretend that things are better, but the facts tell us that something is horribly wrong in this society.
Blacks are not in chains and have received generous hand outs (free-stuff) from whites. I mean, that should be enough to pay for the mistakes of the past, right? But the blacks want more, they want to punish whitey for living so well, while they have had to settle for crumbs. /end
In the meantime the general public is being played like a cheap fiddle by the media, with the political atmosphere being so racially charged that it won't be long before there is open warfare in our streets.
I really don't see anything in your comments that I would disagree with, which causes me to question from where stems your vehemence towards my comments?
My point is quite simple; we cannot have an equitable society without morality, and until we take to heart the moral standards that helped to found this nation, we will continue to suffer.
I took a lot of time to refute your statements, and you think that is evidence that your assertions are true? Amazing.
I appreciate your lengthy reply, ironically the information you have provided seems to support my earlier comments.
Again, you look at my words denying your words and find agreement????
Although there are those who would argue the fact, the Civil War was fought because of slavery, a form of judgement upon the nation, if you will. The problem stemming from that conflict is that as a nation, we quickly forgot the moral lesson that it taught.
You say that the CW was fought because of slavery, and believe this is somehow new information? Truly, I'm astonished.
As for a judgment upon a nation, God is the judge, not mankind. I realize many people would like to make sweeping, dramatic assumptions about what God's opinion is, but that doesn't mean He has actually confided in them. He has already conquered this world. It is for individuals to recognize that judgment is His.
And my friend, my entire long rebuttal to your assumption above that "we quickly forgot the moral lesson" of the Civil War could not be more wrong. Everything I wrote was about the myriad, complex and deeply transformative efforts that millions of Americans made to try to address the harms suffered by slavery and Jim Crow. For you to grandly pronounce a nation still morally guilty based on the tantrums of criminal rioters who were being egged on and supported by paid communist infiltrators is 180 degrees from accurate; moreso because your next sentence seems to acknowlege that the thug behaviors were manipulated by agitators.
The argument, explanation, or excuse proffered by white people today, that they never owned slaves simply serves to ignore the fact that whites in America benefited and have continued to benefit from a system that was designed to benefit white people at the expense of non-whites.
If you are going to make a bold assertion claimed by you to be "simple", you must first make up your mind whether non-ownership of slaves is indeed an argument, an explanation or an excuse. I've been pretty clear that it is an argument in refutation of the desire of race baiters to lay guilt on persons who had no involvement and have no control over what other human beings did in a past in which their ancestors did not participate. While a political entity such as a nation may indeed take actions to redress past wrongs done on the national level, the slinging of guilt onto individuals by individuals must stop. From gratuitously rude and uncivil behavior by blacks against whites in daily life to criminal activities such as "polar bear hunting", the "knockout game", assassinations of police officers and criminally destructive rioting, it is revolting to hear that this breakdown of national unity under the rule of law is somehow a legitimate response to events that were inherited by the United States from its British founders and which the United States has poured out enormous efforts and treasure in the search for solutions. See my tagline below. It was written by a pre-eminent economist and social commentator who also happens to be black.
Secondly, under no interpretation whatsoever can you claim evil intentionality that today's whites continue "to benefit from a system that was designed to benefit white people at the expense of non-whites." Given that to a hammer, everything looks like a nail, if racists want to continue to see racial exploitation as the prime operator in the American society and economy, all I can do is extend my pity at such near-sightedness. Statements like this from you are one of the reasons I called your earlier post distorted.
If the only system you are talking about here is slavery, and given that it was practiced by a small percentage of owners in the agricultural trade, and given all the other defenses I have amply provided that the VAST majority of Americans cannot have either benefited financially or through inheritance from slavery, I must assume your statement means you have drunk the Kool-Aid of the "white privilege" theory, which is so marxist, anti-American, communist-inspired and twisted that it blames white people for merely existing, and imagines that they built a nation NOT for the purposes they stated (the pilgrims dedicated a nation to Christ and wished to honor Him in their expectations of law and society; and over a century later, the revolutionary Founders enshrined a nation "under God" with "Nature's God" as its moving force). The "white privilege" theory presumes that the American culture is inherently evil, that all cultures around the world are equally valid and further that the American nation was always intended to be a paradise for people who do not want to work, who want the privileges of a good life without the responsibilities of contributing effort to get it, and who believe the world owes them a living, no matter what they do or do not do to earn it.
Slavery has been abolished for over 150 years, this is true. So now, we should all pretend that things are better, but the facts tell us that something is horribly wrong in this society.
Yes, the facts tell us that the past 60 years of the Democrat, liberal and marxist philosophies that have overtaken our nation are a colossal failure. Our media and the present administration "ask us to believe" flat-out lies on a daily basis, insisting that failed socialist initiatives just need to be redoubled, and all will be well. Oh, and that if there is a failure such as in Baltimore, where the mayor, the chief of police, the majority of the City Council and half the police force is black and Democrat and the city government has been Democrat for the past 45 years, it is the fault of whites, Christians and/or Republicans.
At this point in your disquisition, you take the completly opposite tack: "Blacks are not in chains and have received generous hand outs (free-stuff) from whites. I mean, that should be enough to pay for the mistakes of the past, right? But the blacks want more, they want to punish whitey for living so well, while they have had to settle for crumbs. /end In the meantime the general public is being played like a cheap fiddle by the media, with the political atmosphere being so racially charged that it won't be long before there is open warfare in our streets."
Perhaps this discussion seems to you to be in opposition to what you are trying to say because you make absolute declarations that are completely opposite within the same post. Which is it? Are whites guilty regardless, or are they not? Are criminally destructive riots always wrong except if they actually accomplish a communist revolution that you would like to see happen, or are they justifiabe iin the long wholesome tradition of American protests because whites should feel guilty, as evidenced by the fact that persons of a marxist-designated victim class are criminally rioting and destroying property paid for by the work of others? Is is because of white people that a black youth is entitled to cut the fire hose as firefighters attempt to quench the arson to a senior center that was under construction at a cost of millions to serve elderly poor blacks in his own community? Was his act of destruction to his own community justifiable because of white privilege?
I really don't see anything in your comments that I would disagree with, which causes me to question from where stems your vehemence towards my comments? My point is quite simple; we cannot have an equitable society without morality, and until we take to heart the moral standards that helped to found this nation, we will continue to suffer.
Then use my comments as a reflection that you need either to improve your thinking about this undeclared civil war that rioters are advancing with the help of white Democrats with an anti-American agenda, or use my comments as a reflection that your writing does not clearly express a consistent point of view.
Please understand as well that there are no simple solutions to the anger of the black underclass and that you have made a number of points, none of which can be logically defined as "simple." The present class war masquerading as a race was is a deeply entrenched problem involving dozens of smokescreens thrown up by the Deceiver to hide his intention to destroy our Bill of Rights. Culture, economics, the off-shoring of jobs coinciding with the intentions of the affirmative action programs, the desires of islamists, communists, financial manipulators and atheists to tear down the Constitution and all evidence of Christian belief and practice all coming together in a perfect storm over the past 30 years. This is a situation that cannot be "simple" in any stretch of the imagination. And yes, quite obviously I have found your attempts to express it simply offensive insofar as they reflect the politically correct postion that whites are entirely to blame, that you are privy to God's intentions, and that criminals have been driven to it by the rest of society having oppressed their ancestors. That is truly a crock. I hope you recover from thinking that way. All Americans are needed on deck at this time because enemies from Russia to the islamist world are online, in our media and attempting in multiple, complex ways to befuddle, blame and accuse Americans at their greatest points of weakness and their greatest points of strength. What side are you on?
As for the nation needing to return to moral governance, I couldn't agree more; but continuing to assume collective white guilt over slavery is among the most utterly self-defeating and ineffectual solutions at this point in time. I believe our society has indeed rendered many constructive remedies unto Caesar, and that the majority of Americans have rendered unto God a renunciation of knee-jerk racial prejudice. As for a cultural preference for the rule of law and the tenets of the Bill of Rights, Americans cannot fairly be blamed for seeing with their own eyes the behaviors of citizens that oppose them, whether the opposition is from rioting mobs, intergenerational welfare cheats or leftist politicians.
I think that there has been a massive turning away from morality on many fronts, most expecially on the issue of the proper role and place of sexuality, that has undertaken the sacrifice of millions of fetuses on the altar of Satan, quite aside from matters of race. I believe we have come to a place where we are hanging by a thread between the ability to recover or the complete destruction of our nation. But for individuals, the challenge is the same challenge since time immemorial: to walk in faith, to conduct oneself as the Holy Spirit would lead us, and to stand firm on the behaviors and ideals expected of us by our Savior, who has already paid for the sins of all who truly believe in Him. By our example, may Christians of every skin color continue to be salt and light in the world. That, and prayer, and such actions to which we are led through faith in the Savior of mankind, are all we can do.