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To: SJackson
I notice many people like to call morons like Swift "overeducated." My own belief is that they are severely undereducated. If a person cannot distinguish an argument as stupid i.e. restricting parents bedtimes stories for their children because that gives them an unfair advantage over parents who do not read to their children (or eliminating any advantage a better off child might have over a not so better off child), then that person is an ignoramus and needs to be educated.

In short, they are lacking in a good education. They are therefore undereducated. That means increasing their level of knowledge so that they can distinguish a good argument from a really stupid one.

6 posted on 05/10/2015 5:39:14 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Like the Russian peasant, who envied his neighbor’s goat. When he found a magic lantern, and the genie offered him but one wish, he wished that the genie would kill his neighbor’s goat.

So if good parenting makes more successful children, let’s outlaw good parenting, and we can all be equally unhappy. A society full of unproductive misfits will be utopia. It will be just like a faculty lounge.


14 posted on 05/10/2015 6:00:20 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: driftless2
That means increasing their level of knowledge so that they can distinguish a good argument from a really stupid one.

But.... you don't get it. No amount of 'education' will fix that.

1. YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological subversion is the process which is legitimate and open. You can see it with your own eyes.... It has nothing to do with espionage.

I know that intelligence gathering looks more romantic.... That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all. According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first one being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism....

The result? The result you can see ... the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

17 posted on 05/10/2015 6:08:56 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: driftless2
I notice many people like to call morons like Swift "overeducated." My own belief is that they are severely undereducated

I look at it like they're educated beyond their intelligence.

20 posted on 05/10/2015 6:17:16 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: driftless2
In short, they are lacking in a good education. They are therefore undereducated. That means increasing their level of knowledge so that they can distinguish a good argument from a really stupid one.

Part of the liberal quest for equality is that everyone is entitled to their opinions even if they are ignorant. In other words, all ideas are equal. Even stupid, socially destructive ideas are equivalent to good ideas.

Education has failed this guy. More education will not help.

26 posted on 05/10/2015 6:56:36 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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