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This is very close to where I live.

What is interesting is the excuse used. If they use any excuse other than "they don't go to government schools, they would have to take the kids from most of the families in eastern Kentucky.

This appears to be prompted by the government being concerned about too many people home shcooling, and not doing it as the state feels fit. Laura Engels would have become a ward of the state if they used the same standards back in the day.

1 posted on 05/09/2015 5:53:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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I tried to post this article from Raw News, but apparently FR blocks that site. No problem. It’s being covered on many news sources. Well, except for the MSM (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, etc.).

The old saying is that if the MSM didn’t report it, it didn’t happen. Except id did. And does.


2 posted on 05/09/2015 5:55:26 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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With people like M. McC and others, KY is a big government state and shall so remain to the sad disadvantage of this family.


4 posted on 05/09/2015 5:59:19 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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We will learn next to nothing more as the govt hostage takers will have threatened the family NOT TO TALK under threat of never seeing their kids again.

We need to have advance heads up BEFORE leo comes out to take hostages. There are still plenty of armed Americans that would standoff the LEO thugs. Just see Nevada last year at the ranch.

Once the kids are taken, facts are manipulated and the truth gets killed.


5 posted on 05/09/2015 6:02:31 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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Scrolling down the article to the comments section, it appears the children might not have been taken because of home schooling but because of dangerous living conditions.

I’m not sure which is the true scenario, but the article is vague on the facts.


7 posted on 05/09/2015 6:14:22 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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This family should remove themselves to a fifth floor walk up in Detroit and let the kids play in the street. No one would bother them, least of all law enforcement.


9 posted on 05/09/2015 6:18:01 AM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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Right, cause kids can only legitimately be “free ranged” in public schools.


11 posted on 05/09/2015 6:19:24 AM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Francis)
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If you follow various storylines of the episode....this family....the Nauglers....go by a method call “unschooling” which basically means natural experiences (games, play, household chores, travel, and personal courses of study). Note, they don’t mention home-schooling which tends to require basic degrees of normal topics that most all home-schooling parents incorporate into their efforts, along with booklets and text.

The problem with this is that once the kids get to eighteen....then what? No one will be able to attest to their reading level. One kid might read at the 3rd grade level and the next kid might read at the 9nd grade level. One kid might have a 12th grade grasp of math and the next kid might have the 4th grade grasp of math. If they came to your factory, shop or office....applying for a job...maybe you’d accept them, but then four weeks later....ask them to leave because they can’t write basic English text at even the 9th grade level.

All these parents are doing....are setting the kids up for stocking shelves, pumping gas, and mowing grass. Beyond that...when the kid reaches thirty and becomes aware of his/her shortfallings...now what? Who screwed up this?

Don’t lecture me over home-schooling....if you go by the method, you aren’t selling the kids short. These parents aren’t home-schooling. They simply letting the kids tag along and just catch things as they occur. That might be ok for 1815, but here in 2015....you kinda need a decent basic education or you get screwed.


12 posted on 05/09/2015 6:20:10 AM PDT by pepsionice
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Stuff like this is why I’m torn when I saw the rocks thrown at cops in Baltimore.


13 posted on 05/09/2015 6:23:22 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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the gov’t warehouses for kids - aka public schools - get a per head bounty payment each day a kid is in school.

Ten kids not in school - lotta money they aren’t getting

In the meantime, even after the family gets their kids back, they have been traumatized for life - their security gone, never knowing when they’ll be snatched again.

They need to get their kids and then SUE - with a suit on the table, the state will stay away.


16 posted on 05/09/2015 6:28:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( million ii, all)
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If it’s a question of education, 95% of the kids within inner city public schools should be taken over as they come out of school with even less education than what they just described within the article.


19 posted on 05/09/2015 6:33:25 AM PDT by winner3000
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Looks like a very healthy family - and independent of gov’t control = their “crime”

I hope enough money gets contributed to fight the Gestapo....

https://www.facebook.com/MyBlessedLittleHomestead?fref=ts


22 posted on 05/09/2015 6:38:03 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( million ii, all)
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The mommy police is no joke, and without a doubt this woman drove them over a well worn edge with her utter disregard for their authority over her. Nonetheless, you should have an idea where your kids are because they are young, inexperienced, and tend to do stupid stuff, we are not spiders.

If you do something heinous, you can bet there will be someone waiting in the wings to push their agenda over it.


23 posted on 05/09/2015 6:43:39 AM PDT by BlackAdderess ("Give me a but a firm spot on which to stand, and I shall move the earth". --Archimedes)
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Isn’t Rand Paul a senator in this state? He is mister liberty, why doesn’t he do something about this or is he to busy running for President.


26 posted on 05/09/2015 6:50:52 AM PDT by Lets Roll NOW (A baby isn't a punishment, Obama is)
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If you look at the first comment to the link you see what is going on.

These kids are living feral, no utilities, inadequate “shelter”, specifically they are living in makeshift tents. No sanitation, no medical care, no dental care, no clean clothes, no clean dishes, inadequate food, they are living like cavemen. These parents are complete loons and the state took too long to rescue these kids.


28 posted on 05/09/2015 6:53:46 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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I read this on a site not permitted to be posted here.

The point being missed (without reading all the comments at this moment) is how they were singled out.

Their postings to FB should serve as a warning to EVERYONE using that NSA tool...


29 posted on 05/09/2015 6:54:42 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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Beautiful, healthy children. I hope they are ok


38 posted on 05/09/2015 7:03:36 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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Why can't the Naugler parents simply let their kids go to government schools. They provide such a great educational experience!

Baltimore is a good example. Why, Baltimore spends $17,196 per student! Only a mere 55 percent of Baltimore fourth graders scored "below basic" in reading while a whopping 14 percent scored at the proficient or advanced level! Meanwhile, a miniscule 54 percent of eighth graders scored "below basic" in math, while an astounding 13 percent were proficient or advanced!

I'll bet the Naugler family can't even come close to that achievement level. Besides, I don't see any Social Services experts needing to ride to the rescue in Baltimore like they need to do on the Blessed Little Homestead!

44 posted on 05/09/2015 7:09:05 AM PDT by Gritty (The more we submit to violent jihadi intimidation, the more we are going to get-Robert Spencer)
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http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-things-you-need-to-know

Naugles are scary freaky


50 posted on 05/09/2015 7:42:06 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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On a different, but somewhat related topic, whether someone gets their education in public school, private school, homeschooling, or unsachooling - wouldn’t you think that an employer could tell something about the prospective employee’s competence on basic educational skills by how they fill out an employment application?

On the other hand, it seems as though many employers don’t do handwritten applications anymore, but are done “online” - which seems to be something that could easily be faked by having someone else fill out the online form. With a hand-written form you can see if the prospective employee can: read and understand questions, spell, express themselves competently, etc.

It used to be the day you filled out the form, in person, that you were often interviewed right then and there. Of course, I realize I am speaking of entry level type jobs, but my point is, it would seem to me that where you got your education to read, write, do math, etc., is irrelevant as long as you can do it competently.

The argument by the state is that if a child is not “properly educated” they are more likely to become a burden to the community. But, as many have already pointed out, statistics show that more than half of public educated kids can’t do basic reading, writing, or math. So who is “abusing” who?

Now, if real neglect can be demonstrated, that’s a different issue.


57 posted on 05/09/2015 8:27:39 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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It is way past time that agents of the state start dying over this kind of crap.


58 posted on 05/09/2015 8:31:10 AM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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