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O'Reilly: "Bogus" To Invoke Free Speech In Mohammed Art Contest Debate
Breitbart.com ^ | May 8,2015 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 05/08/2015 3:37:23 AM PDT by Biggirl

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To: bray

Imam O’Reilly


101 posted on 05/08/2015 9:12:53 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Imam Falafel


102 posted on 05/08/2015 9:13:23 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
So even though we are not Muslim we have to behave like we are or face death? The difference between Islam and other religions is that if I eat a ham sandwich, a Jew or a Hindu doesn't try to kill me. Islam is the only religion I know of that demands that even non Muslims adhere to their beliefs or be killed. THAT is the point of the contest.

...and THAT is the best explanation I have seen yet!!

103 posted on 05/08/2015 9:19:57 AM PDT by Gritty (The more we submit to violent jihadi intimidation, the more we are going to get-Robert Spencer)
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To: Yaelle

“All are mean spirited mocking against someone’s religion”

It’s to make a point!

The point is ...

A pastor threatens to burn a Koran, The president gets upset.

Muslims burn Christians. Nobody is upset. It is their way.


104 posted on 05/08/2015 10:27:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: mdmathis6
You missed my point.

Yes, I know there is a penalty to pay. But Jesus did not tell others to make those who sin pay the penalty. He did not order his disciple to kill people. That is the point I am making. God will give us our just rewards, not men.

105 posted on 05/08/2015 11:07:11 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Biggirl

He has indeed jumped the shark.


106 posted on 05/08/2015 11:20:39 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: 7thson

No but he did tell his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy swords for he was going away. What was interesting was when he said that, the disciples produced 2 swords that they had been carrying(”It is enough!”) which gives a different nuance to the story of a band of peaceful disciples walking around preaching the good news. Some one suggested they had carried them around to guard against robbers; Christ seems to have tolerated the carrying of these swords.

No we don’t kill simply to enforce God’s law for vengeance is his; but self defense is another issue. Geller is Jewish as I had heard before and she has probably a different take then we do on history and the notion of the defense of rights!
Garland Texas was the site of the “Defense of the Prophet protest” in January. This is Geller’s counter response..a kind of “Defense of our rights” protest! No one shot anybody at the first protest but there was an attempt on life at the second protest!


107 posted on 05/08/2015 11:48:38 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (If Hitler, Nazi, OR...McCarthy are mentioned in an argument, then the argument is over!)
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To: Biggirl

Neville O’Reilly declares the very existence of Jews provokes jihadist nuts so we must ban Jews.


108 posted on 05/08/2015 12:11:20 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: TexasGator

It would be morally wrong IF Muslims were not beheading non-muslims and Muslims were not trying to impose their laws on non-Muslims.


No, it is morally wrong to treat other religions how you would not want yours treated.

What Islamists do is pure evil and they should be blown off the face of the earth.


109 posted on 05/08/2015 12:29:14 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: Yaelle

“No, it is morally wrong to treat other religions how you would not want yours treated. What Islamists do is pure evil and they should be blown off the face of the earth.”

Hmmm. It is morally wrong to draw cartoons since we wouldn’t want them to draw cartoons of ourselves but it is morally ok to blow them off the face of the earth?


110 posted on 05/08/2015 12:32:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

point of their contest. I was not to mock Islam, but to lay a line in the sand that Muslims cannot dictate by violence what non-Muslims can and cannot do.


Actually, I get the point of the contest and I agreed yesterday with Pam’s essay on why she did it. However, it still is wrong to deliberately mock and insult someone’s faith. Charlie Hebdo had a slight moral edge because they were a weekly magazine which mocked everyone.

I suppose if she cared not to break the Golden Rule she could have staged a protest without deliberately mocking another religion. Had meaningful speakers. Told the truth. But she decided a Piss Christ style shock would be more effective. It remains indefensible on a moral standpoint, though.


111 posted on 05/08/2015 12:54:14 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: mdmathis6

Just saying Jesus Chris is Lord was enough to get one’s head cut off in Iraq by these folks. We understand about “politeness” and not wanting to offend folks. But get your head out of the quicksand of politeness...these folks will kill out of the slightest provocation!


It isn’t about etiquette. If a Christian had murdered the artist’s mother, would Piss Christ have been a religiously moral work of art?

Don’t lose your morality just because the other side loses theirs.


112 posted on 05/08/2015 12:56:04 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: mdmathis6

What moral wrong did she do? No I think she took the truth about Islam and rubbed our nose in it and our normalcy biased complacency tries to kick back; the fact that they tried to kill her adds the obnoxious odor to what our nose was rubbed in!

Yell about immorality all you wish but it’s hard to get the stink out of your nose...isn’t it! You are nothing but an infidel to them no matter what you do to “fig leaf” your self!


Geller had a good point. The way she chose to make her point was exactly what Nazi cartoons of Jews or art like Piss Christ made. That was immoral. Apparently, she didn’t want to be moral.


113 posted on 05/08/2015 1:03:03 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: TexasGator

Hmmm. It is morally wrong to draw cartoons since we wouldn’t want them to draw cartoons of ourselves but it is morally ok to blow them off the face of the earth?


Context.

Yes, we should blow terrorists off the face of the earth. Yes, it is moral to protect people from these attacks.

It is not morally wrong to draw cartoons. Cartoonists can draw cartoons mocking anything, and I don’t even necessarily think the cartoons will be morally wrong, if they are in context of a current event, etc. This event was created purely to mock. It has less morality than the context of Charlie Hebdo or any paper printing a cartoon mocking islam.


114 posted on 05/08/2015 1:08:11 PM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way... I love it when we're Cruzin together")
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To: CSM

Thanks. That’s why I post them, to have them spread to non-readers who are a majority of America today. We do a great job of chatting here among “the conservative choir” but we don’t move the ball down the field that way. Putting memes in front of millennials (who don’t read but are glued to screens) is a way to actually affect the national discourse.


115 posted on 05/09/2015 4:20:41 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Suz in AZ

I do see apoint where women will either wear them in certain enclaves or be physically attacked for it; the Muslim nests grow quickly, and there aren’t Americans being born to hem them in.


116 posted on 05/09/2015 4:50:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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