[Sooth2222]

Secondly, can the driving be blamed for it when the perp was bashing his head into a bolt matched to the back of the van?

So who put the fatal bolt there? I doubt it was Caesar Goodson.

I'm sure there is plenty of civil liability on the part of Baltimore. But second-degree murder? I don't see it.

[Bob434]

[[So who put the fatal bolt there? I doubt it was Caesar Goodson.]]

Is that what they are saging killed him now? I thought it was a broken neck that killed him, no?

And I didn’t say the officers will be convicted of Second degree- I said that likely, they will get it reduced to negligent homicide because of the restraint strap issue IF they get anything at all- second degree murder is going to be VERY hard to prove- I believe with second degree you need to prove callous willful intentional indifference to human life with intent to murder- I might be mistaken about that-