[stephenjohnbanker]

” Fighting like the world fights is something for the world. It isn’t something for Christians.”

Soooo, my great- grandfather who died defending America, (and the world) in WW1, and my dad, a Navy medic(with 3 purple hearts) from WW2 weren’t Christians ? Your defeatism, and/or pacifism under the guise of Christianity is wearing very thin these days.

[crosdaddy]

I agree, it’s old and tired. I wish he would find another forum for his
Defeatism.

[Yosemitest]

I agree.

Read again

" Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven;
but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. "

And read again:

" But he that heareth , and doeth not,
is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth;
against which the stream did beat vehemently ,
and immediately it fell ;
and the ruin of that house was great. "

Are we not judged by our INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS ?
Shouldn't judgement begin with US ?

Our ACTIONS matter as we go through this fiery trial, and every action we take, every idle word we speak, we WILL answer for.

And so it has been written, and so IT SHALL BE DONE.

Can you remember reading about "a thorn in their side"?

"But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you;
then it shall come to pass,
that those which ye let remain of them
shall be pricks in your eyes,
and thorns in your sides,
and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.
Moreover
it shall come to pass,
that I shall do unto you,
as I thought to do unto them."

Someone once said:

"The only way one can accept the truth and retain their sanity is to trust God."

They may be more to it than that.
Doing is important.
I believe the "fiery trial" has already started.
We haven't been very diligent " ... to keep and to do all that is written in the book of the law of Moses ... "
and there are consequences for our actions and in-actions.
We are living in the time of those consequences.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You are pretty dim here, not I. Traditional military and police services are not rendered dishonorable. However when the answer to everything in your mind becomes a gun, the red flags should be popping up.