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Rand Paul: Let’s face it, it was a mistake to topple Saddam Hussein
Hotair ^ | 04/27/2015 | AllahPundit

Posted on 04/27/2015 7:35:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 04/27/2015 10:05:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: laplata

I agree with you and Paul. I said it then and I still believe it. He was a dictator that kept everything under control. 911 would not have happened had he still been in power. JMO


161 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:23 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Obama voters are my enemy. And so are RINO voters.)
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To: wardaddy

Thanks.

You might find this following essay by Hinderaker useful when you run across those who now want to insist that there was no intention of trying to engage in democratic nation building in Iraq:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/08/the-fate-of-democracy-in-iraq.php


162 posted on 04/27/2015 11:34:54 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Pelham

You are right. I half misread you. Good.


163 posted on 04/27/2015 11:50:01 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You nailed it pal!


164 posted on 04/28/2015 1:21:49 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: SeekAndFind

After toppling Saddam the US should have pulled back to the borders...let the various factions work things out..let them have the revenge killings and comeback in only when called for...thats the only way to deal with the ME mentality. Hearts and minds ops is pure BS.

As to Rand Paul...he is his daddy’s little boy............


165 posted on 04/28/2015 1:27:23 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: SeekAndFind

That genie is long gone out of the bottle, but in retrospect, leaving the Ba’athists in power would’ve prevented Iraq becoming a broken vassal state of Iran.


166 posted on 04/28/2015 2:07:14 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hillary is nothing more than a white, wrinkled form of Obama in pants.)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's a good insight to how poor of mind Rand has and where his values are. To learn that he doesn't appreciates Saddam's historic crimes - war with Iran, war with Kuwait, war with the USA twice, funding of terrorists and their families in Gaza and the West Bank, and war on the Iraqi people. Apparently, Rand prefers Saddam's tyranny and undeclared and vicious wars against people at peace with Iraq to what Bush did. He blames Bush for finally removing this plague.

Now, I could understand if Rand was upset that Obama failed to get a SOFA with Iraq, or if he was upset that Obama failed to try to stop ISIS from emerging as a massive threat to civilization, but to become nostalgic for the Saddam status quo is to prove he's not fit to become our president.

167 posted on 04/28/2015 2:12:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: PGR88

You do know that Hitler declared war on the US right after Japan attacked the USA, right? Should the US have allowed him to destroy our ships with impunity for a pipe dream of Nazis ending the Soviet Union? And it is right to be morally outraged at the Soviet takeover of Central Europe; we should have said more sooner than we in the West did. But what would we have done militarily? Do you recall the “wanna go home” riots in the US military right after the war and how quickly the US tried to demilitarize its role in Europe?


168 posted on 04/28/2015 2:19:58 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The 9th post that should have been the first.


169 posted on 04/28/2015 2:22:30 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: laplata
He is correct.

Yes he is. Christianity in Iraq was devastated as a direct consequence of the Bush war. ISIS is mopping up the pieces now. Bush and his family are demonic employees of the Saudis.

170 posted on 04/28/2015 3:25:54 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
I specifically recall Bush senior deliberately leaving Saddam in power because foreign policy experts feared deposit him would leave a “Power Vaccum”.

Yeah -- and one of those members of the first Bush administration who was most adamant about leaving Saddam Hussein in power was his Secretary of Defense: Dick Cheney.

Too bad the Dick Cheney of 2003 didn't have the wisdom of his predecessor 13 years earlier.

171 posted on 04/28/2015 3:30:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: SeekAndFind

We should have nuked the Saudis on 9/12.


172 posted on 04/28/2015 3:33:18 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: A Navy Vet
That makes me question your position in our conversation. The military would not "mutiny" under those circumstances. Argue all you want, but I just don't believe it.

Maybe they wouldn't openly mutiny over there, but you can be sure that a lot of them wouldn't be putting themselves at risk outside the perimeter of their bases.

173 posted on 04/28/2015 3:40:56 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: laplata

Easy to look back and make assumptions but one should take in the other factors - not enough actual “shock and awe” to really destroy those that needed to be destroyed, then an Obama comes along and pretty much ensures that the terrorists take what they wanted in the first place. Add hos misdealing with Afghanistan and Iran to the mix and one can not disentangle the mess.


174 posted on 04/28/2015 4:01:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: laplata
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He is correct.


Ron-Rand Paul is a "loon" ... with ZERO understanding on world geopolitics ...

The "Iraq Mistake" was the "bastard" Obama giving the U.S. Victory to Vallerie Jarret's Iran on a silver platter ...



Rand Paul just needs to go away ... or else get a "journalist" slot at MSNBC ...


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175 posted on 04/28/2015 4:39:11 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Sirius Lee
We should have nuked the Saudis on 9/12.

Agreed.

176 posted on 04/28/2015 5:10:39 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rand Paul is wrong. In short, Hussein was a threat, and vindictive, and perhaps capable and willing to put small amounts of poison/chemical/bio weapons in the hands of terrorists for delivery to large groups of gathered people in the west/USA. It couldn't be tolerated.

37. Sensitive reporting indicates senior terrorist planner and close al Qaeda associate al Zarqawi has had an operational alliance with Iraqi officials. As of Oct. 2002, al Zarqawi maintained contacts with the IIS to procure weapons and explosives, including surface-to-air missiles from an IIS officer in Baghdad. According to sensitive reporting, al Zarqawi was setting up sleeper cells in Baghdad to be activated in case of a U.S. occupation of the city, suggesting his operational cooperation with the Iraqis may have deepened in recent months. Such cooperation could include IIS provision of a secure operating bases [sic] and steady access to arms and explosives in preparation for a possible U.S. invasion. Al Zarqawi's procurements from the Iraqis also could support al Qaeda operations against the U.S. or its allies elsewhere.

38. According to sensitive reporting, a contact with good access who does not have an established reporting record: An Iraqi intelligence service officer said that as of mid-March the IIS was providing weapons to al Qaeda members located in northern Iraq, including rocket propelled grenade (RPG)-18 launchers. According to IIS information, northern Iraq-based al Qaeda members believed that the U.S. intended to strike al Qaeda targets during an anticipated assault against Ansar al-Islam positions.

177 posted on 04/28/2015 5:42:23 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Saudi government funded 9/11.


178 posted on 04/28/2015 5:48:47 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: xzins

Rand Paul is correct. It was all part of the plan to also work on Libya and Syria. That is not working well either.


179 posted on 04/28/2015 5:50:34 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle

Sorry, but I would have made the same decision given the facts presented.


180 posted on 04/28/2015 5:53:54 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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