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To: ex-snook; Homer_J_Simpson; EternalVigilance; iowamark; henkster; Tax-chick; Hebrews 11:6; ...
Very interesting opinion by Churchill that if the WWI victors had left the Hohenzollerns and Habsburgs in place in constitutional monarchies the rise of Hitler and Nazism could have been averted because the people and in particular military establishments would have had a focal point.

I don't think that would have been possible. By the end of the war Germany was in revolution and the military was in mutiny. The country was in no mood to continue Hohenzollern rule.

In the Austrian Empire the slavic regions were insisting on independence. Although the situation was not a turbulent, the German Austrian republicans would not stand for a continuation of the monarchy.

Although it is true that the Allied representatives, and Woodrow Wilson in particular, demanded sweeping away the old monarchies, internal dynamics were dictating the same result.

25 posted on 04/26/2015 1:01:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

The German National People’s Party (DVNP) had a monarchist platform and had a large early-mid Weimar base. I believe Hindenberg was a monarchist.


26 posted on 04/26/2015 1:40:35 PM PDT by fso301
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To: colorado tanker

Politics seems to takes on a life of its own sometimes.

Still hard for me to take watching the western Allies not moving an inch and allowing the communists to surround Berlin and the country around Berlin as a result of what I consider to be convouted politics and Stalin out-negotiating FDR.


27 posted on 04/26/2015 1:56:24 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: colorado tanker

I grew up across the street from a Hohenzollern family in California . They changed their name to Zoller.


29 posted on 04/26/2015 2:12:34 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: colorado tanker

At the end of World War 1, nobody in Germany wanted Wilhelm or the Crown Prince, who was apparently as much of an ass as his dad. You would have had to go down the line of succession to find a good figurehead monarch.

In Austria-Hungary, the empire had only been held together by personal loyalty to Franz Josef II by his subject. He was himself an institution. When he died, the Empire died with him.

Yes, had the royal institutions remained, Hitler would not have risen. But that scenario violates Henkster’s Law.


37 posted on 04/26/2015 8:50:54 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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