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Alcohol, now legalized, has ruined countless lives. There's no way you can say that society was improved once it was legalized. I'm not saying alcohol should be made illegal again however. I'm saying that the destruction wrought from legalizing alcohol pales in comparison to the destruction that would surely ensue after legalizing hard drugs like meth and opiates. There are some mistakes that a nation simply can not recover from. This would be one of those.

I'm also saying that the war on drugs has failed because it was never fought as an actual war with the intent of winning. Waged properly, the war on drugs could be won in a decade. We should wage it properly before we throw up our hands and call it futile.

I'm also saying that we will eventually give up every shred of our national sovereignty once we legalize these substances.

Alcohol, now legalized, has ruined countless lives. There's no way you can say that society was improved once it was legalized.

Sure I can - society was improved by an end to alcohol's enrichment of criminals, with all the ills that sprang from that, and from those who chose to drink no longer having a Prohibition-created incentive to drink liquor rather than beer or wine.

I'm not saying alcohol should be made illegal again however.

Why not, given everything you've said about alcohol?

I'm saying that the destruction wrought from legalizing alcohol pales in comparison to the destruction that would surely ensue after legalizing hard drugs like meth and opiates.

Legalization certainly shouldn't start there - and it's possible that legalizing pot might leave us with a War on Drugs we can actually win, which is not the case now.

How would a properly waged War on Drugs differ from its current implementation?