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To: kabar

“So what’s your point? Since both parties are essentially the same, what should real conservatives do and whom should they support?”

I don’t know, you tell me, your answer is as good as mine. There doesn’t seem to be much of a selection for conservatives to support in this country. Might well be that there is no solution.

And no, I don’t want to hasten the demise of the country, but the demise of the country might well occur regardless of what any of us want or don’t want.

We’ve tried voting them out, and it really doesn’t seem like an Article V convention is catching fire, and even if it did, it seems like trying to pass gun control laws for criminals to follow, so after that what’s left?

If the people of America, natural born or otherwise, don’t want to be free, then they are not going to be.

If I had to try and put my finger on the root of the problem, I’d say that many generations ago free people decided that they didn’t need to focus on fighting for freedom any longer, because they already had it, and they didn’t really bother teaching it to their children, or teaching how hard it is to get and keep, and what happened was, over a period of generations, free people created a nation of complete jack asses that know nothing at all of value or importance.

And I’m not really sure how to correct that or if it can be corrected. Maybe the best that can be hoped for is that some future free nation not follow in our footsteps. And if there is a future free nation, they should know that the left will be there right from the start trying to destroy it from within, because the blueprint for such has been written.


359 posted on 04/25/2015 11:26:35 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: chris37
If I had to try and put my finger on the root of the problem, I’d say that many generations ago free people decided that they didn’t need to focus on fighting for freedom any longer, because they already had it, and they didn’t really bother teaching it to their children, or teaching how hard it is to get and keep, and what happened was, over a period of generations, free people created a nation of complete jack asses that know nothing at all of value or importance.

When mulling over thoughts like you've written above, I've often wondered if we are exhibiting the classic "victims of our own success!" The core of Liberty and Natural Rights that our Nation was founded upon, coupled with free market capitalism, led to such great success. Disposable income and leisure time soared for the vast majority of our citizenry over time. The "poor" were no longer really poor.

Pop culture and other entertainment industries cropped up and provided all the distractions necessary. Cheap and plentiful consumer goods also provided a ready target for an inordinately large amount of focus.

A large majority of the population no longer felt it necessary to keep our eyes and ears on Washington, DC. All was running along swimmingly and the perception developed that there was no longer any reason to keep our eyes and ears on the levers and switches.... And, here we are.

360 posted on 04/25/2015 11:36:36 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: chris37

I understand your position now: SURRENDER


367 posted on 04/25/2015 12:13:18 PM PDT by kabar
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