The truth is that homosexuality is dangerous behavior that is highly associated with early death, physical defect, psychological injury, biological infection, and, for the Christian, spiritual rebellion against God. While the court probably won’t allow any thoughts on the spiritual aspect, they have self-imposed a mental blindness If they ignore that promoting homosexualism in our marriages is dangerous to individuals and to our culture.
Pray hard, because short of a miracle I don’t see this decision going the right way.
The four liberals, Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagen, and Sotomayor all believe in homosexual marriage. They will vote that there is indeed a constitutional right to homosexual marriage.
Kennedy is not always on the liberal side, but his previous opinions strongly suggest that he thinks there is a constitutional right to homosexual marriage.
And the 4 liberals plus Kennedy make 5 votes out of nine for homosexual marriage.
Since the Supreme Court prior rulings on this issue in 2013, numerous federal courts have compelled many states to perform homosexual marriages. And these other federal courts drew largely upon Kennedy’s opinion in the 2013 case. These courts have ruled that there is a constitutional right to homosexual marriage.
It seems unlikely that the Supreme Court is going to overrule all of these lower federal courts, who drew upon reasoning of the previous Supreme Court ruling, in deciding that there is a constitutional right to homosexual marriage.
It was made up a decade ago. Justice Kennedy is the one who is going to create this out of thin air. The Liberal Justices will do what Liberal Judges always do.
Of course they will vote in favor of it.
if the SCOTUS rules fags have a ‘right’ to marriage... will the fedgov then move to arrest anyone that doesn’t perform these ‘marriages’?
meanwhile, when did someone’s ‘right’ force another to perform an action?
last i checked, our Rights were bestowed upon us by our Creator. this means we have ALL our Rights... while sitting alone on a deserted island. which means, there are no ‘rights’ that require actions by others to fulfill.
marriage is not a ‘right’ ... it is the recognized covenant performed by an organization. no US law can dictate to a group of people actions they must perform or how they should perform them.
As a hunter, I am sick and tired of being discriminated against by my state. They allow other people to hunt and kill deer but they don’t allow me to hunt and kill humans! That is patently unfair! I don’t have the same rights as they do so it is clearly discriminatory and unconstitutional!
Oh, you say I have the same rights they do?! But I DON’T WANT TO HUNT DEER. I want to hunt PEOPLE! People taste better! Therefore I’m being discriminated against!!
Oh, you say that I’m not being discriminated against because nobody else is allowed to hunt people either?
YOU BIGGOT! Why are you HATING on me!
You will have to get use to men kissing men, and playing grab ass,in your place of business or in front of your children. You must act like homo marriage is no different than any other marriage.
Actually, you better act like homo marriage is better than any other marriage or they will sue you.
Once this is accomplished we have nowhere to go but downward.
The sad thing is it will be a moot point in 20 years if the current trend on the issue continues, no matter if the SC rules the right way now. I don’t think there is a state in the union that won’t eventually just repeal any marriage amendment they may still have by popular vote, given everything else staying the same.
FReegards
Of course.
I think its a done deal. The individual states will have to decide whether to stand up and declare the 10th amendment or not.
Sam Olens our RINO Attorney General here in GA who I just voted back in last fall has announced that GA will immediately buckle under and do gay marriage if the SCOTUS rules that way. Way to never get elected again in the Bible Belt Sam.
The States should just abolish regulating marriage. They should just let the Church handle the issue.
If the 17th Amendment had never been ratified then there would probably be all difference faces on the Supreme Court at this time, the Court composed of justices who respect family values, and 10th Amendment-protected state sovereignty to prohibit constitutionally unprotected gay marriage would prevail.
The 17th Amendment needs to disappear.
Envision this: A man wearing a moustache and a dress teaching 5th graders...and not a thing that we can do about it.
I suppose that's true in as much as there isn't really any Constitutional "right" to marriage. What's at issue is the right to have a gay "marriage" recognized in all states.
THE SOLUTION
For years Ive posted that the ultimate goal of the homosexual normalization movement is to subvert the Church and all other moral resistance that stands in the way.
Now it has become clear to most people for the first time what the true objectives are.
Now I have also sought solutions, solutions that will endure and remain strong against all challenges. And I have found one. To understand what must be done will require you to think a little deeper and to think of something that as Mark Levin says is a solution as big as the problem meaning a solution that gets its hands around the whole problem.
First, here are some knee-jerk solutions that dont work or will not work:
1. DOMA. DOMA was no solution and already has easily been removed as an obstacle.
2. Amending the US Constitution. This is a step in the right direction but amending for the purpose of defining marriage is short-sighted and can fail to gather sufficient momentum just as the BBA of years past (Balanced Budget Amendment). Its actually pathetic to have to think we must amend our sacred document to guard against perversion and theres no telling if such an amendment would stand the test of time as it may conflict with rulings of other amendments. Such a solution also attempts to enact morality and common sense which is a futile effort, an intractable problem because theres always another exception, an offshoot, another problem of the day that cant be solved with legislation.
Basically, we can legislate neither morality nor common sense ***effectively***. It just cannot be done adequately.
But before considering other alternatives, we should take note of certain observations:
1. Americans by and large do not want to normalize homosexuality. Recent press and polls are trying to condition Americans into thinking that they do want to normalize homosexuality. This is a lie.
2. 38 states passed state legislation defining marriage in its tradition sense or they voted against initiatives to legalize homosexual marriage or they passed laws or held referendums or amended their state constitutions to either ban homosexual marriage or define precisely what marriage is, between one man and one woman.
38 states; think about that.
12 States passed same-sex marriage legislation or initiatives.
3. Now note that it takes 3/4s of states which is presently equal to 38 states to ratify a proposed amendment to the US Constitution thereby making the amendment a part of the US Constitution.
4. Federal Courts have struck down state bans, definitions and initiatives that seek to uphold traditional marriage.
5. The US Supreme Court is getting ready to review the definition of marriage and they are sure to rule for homosexuals. Justice Kennedy will be the swing vote just as he was when he ruled against DOMA in Windsor.
So given the 5 points above it would seem reasonable to amend the US Constitution to define marriage but as previously pointed out this would be solution that falls short.
To understand better, we need to look at the above five points again and importantly the second point. Read it again. What does it tell us?
It tells us the States have no power before the federal government.
Its as simple as that.
Lets repeat it with emphasis:
THE STATES HAVE NO POWER BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Now some may still think ... Oh but Congress can amend the Constitution. Think about this. Will the present makeup of Congress amend anything to express the Will of the People? The answer is absolutely not, they wont even get it into a committee. They have been sold to the highest bidder. We live in a time when the corruption in Congress is so thick that it would be unbelievable to past generations.
Think about it some more in terms of the 10th Amendment. Is the 10th Amendment respected, observed, utilized? No, it is not. It has been subordinated by other amendments.
A Marriage Amendment will be challenged by rulings that elevate the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendments over it.
Now lets repeat the main reality:
THE STATES HAVE NO POWER BEFORE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
Why is this? How did this happen?
The answer is easily ascertained. This loss of power is a direct result of the 17th Amendment which extinguished the power of state legislatures before Congress. Just a note in passing, the 17th, the 16th and the 18th were all passed in 1913. They were all a stain on the US Constitution and serve as a clear illustration of how knee-jerk reactions to problems and conflicts of the day can result in disaster.
Now, 102 years later, we have perversion threatening our freedom of conscience and the very fiber of our beings.
SO, if we are to consider amending our US Constitution, we must be very careful, very thorough, and we must understand the core of the problem. In all likelihood we only get one shot at this in our lifetime.
The root of the problem is the 17th Amendment. We can propose to repeal it but that can be a very hard sale, perhaps more difficult than privatizing Social Security. The 17th Amendment gave the power to vote to the people. In effect, to repeal it will launch a debate and war in society that will end up following so many directions that it will smother the entire reason of why we needed to do it in the first place; the reason for repeal will get lost in the noise and be forgotten.
But lets look at the problem from a slightly different angle. If we cant get at the root of the problem, can we get at the core of the problem?
The answer is yes. And it involves amending the US Constitution through the States asserting Article V.
Now I will repeat an illustration that shows us how the power of Article V can be unlocked by the States to restore federalism thereby restoring our liberty and saving our Republic. Note that this illustration condenses several of Mark Levins suggested Liberty Amendments and also has incorporated valuable input from concerned Freepers.
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AMENDMENT XXVIII
To redress the balance of powers between the federal government and the States and to restore effective suffrage of State Legislatures to Congress, the following amendment is proposed:
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Section 1.
A Senator in Congress shall be subject to recall by their respective state legislature or by voter referendum in their respective state.
Section 2.
Term limits for Senators in Congress shall be set by vote in their respective state legislatures but in no case shall be set less than twelve years nor more than eighteen years.
Section 3.
Upon a majority vote in three-fifths of state legislatures, specific federal statutes, federal court decisions and executive directives of any form shall be repealed and made void.
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Section 3 of the above illustration puts an end to the social tyranny of the federal government. Now I will point out that such an amendment does not get us out of the woods completely. US Supreme Court Justices can still base bizarre rulings from the 14th Amendment and other amendments to overrule a 28th Amendment like the one above. But then States can void such rulings and this sets the stage for a grand conflict that can be resolved by a President and a Congress that will reign in the US Supreme Court by packing it, cutting its budget and pruning its jurisdictions. The 28th Amendment can survive as a preeminent amendment of the US Constitution when voters and state legislatures unite to fight together.
WHAT WE CAN WE DO TODAY?
We should strongly recommend the following must-see video of Mark Levin be watched, consumed and studied:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdZuV8JnvvA
And we should strongly recommend everyone to urge their respective state senators and state representatives, and the people that work for them, to view it also.
Most people today dont even know who their state legislators are. Is this surprising in light of the 17th Amendment?
Start with a simple task today. Put it on your to-do list to find out who is your State Representative and who is your State Senator. Get their names, addresses and phone numbers. You will be astonished at how accessible and neighborly they can be.
And lastly, sign up here as soon as possible:
http://www.conventionofstates.com/