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No, Senator Rubio, Homosexuals Aren't Born that Way
AFA ^ | Monday, April 20, 2015 | Bryan Fischer

Posted on 04/20/2015 5:01:58 PM PDT by xzins

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To: xzins

And yet, if you disagree with the Born That Way thesis, you are automatically labeled as the Infidel and mentally ill [which is what actual homophobia is, an irrational fear of homosexuals].


181 posted on 04/23/2015 1:09:55 PM PDT by walford (https://www.facebook.com/wralford [feel free to friend me] @wralford on Twitter)
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To: DoughtyOne
I’m not sure I understand you here. Your use of the word heritable causes me to thing hereditary, but then you state not genetic. I don’t understand how that can coincide.

A perfectly reasonable question. Your confusion arises from the differences between "genetic" and "hereditary," the former being a subset of the latter. "Genetic" is determined by genes, the core of which is DNA. Yet it turns out that there are heritable traits that are not determined by DNA, that can be inherited in response to environmental factors. One can literally change the heritable traits of an animal by how it is treated. These traits are not passed via DNA in genes, but by messenger RNA found in mitochondria. These are not genetic, but epigenetic.

For example, wolves can double in size in but five generations depending upon how much food is available; feed them more and the next generation is born larger and the next generation be larger still even if the extra food is withdrawn (hence this is not a matter of prenatal nutrition). Similarly, cut the food and it takes generations for the average size to come down. This is not due to genetics or selection, but it is a heritable response to environmental conditions.

Another example, one can take a population of stickleback fish, observe them and pull all the dominant fish from the population. At that point, the environmental stressor of not having dominant fish allows otherwise less dominant fish an opportunistic move into that role, to become dominant fish. Pull those dominant fish and crossbreed them with recessive fish, and the fish that became dominant will pass on those traits, producing dominant progeny. The principle works even across the species barrier!

Dog and horse breeders focused upon temperament have known this intuitively for decades. We simply have a label for it now.

182 posted on 04/23/2015 2:15:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Interesting. It does make sense the way you explained it.

Damn it!

LOL


183 posted on 04/23/2015 2:21:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: DoughtyOne
Interesting. It does make sense the way you explained it.

Damn it!

Infuriating, ain't I? It's my thing.

184 posted on 04/23/2015 2:26:45 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

= :^)


185 posted on 04/23/2015 2:29:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: xzins

Uh....impulsiveness is natural for most people. As are many other personality traits.


186 posted on 04/23/2015 2:31:15 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

Disagree. Too easily overcome.


187 posted on 04/23/2015 2:35:47 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DoughtyOne
BTW, what this means is that the public schools and mass media are breeding sexually obsessive children that will remain that way for generations to come, even if we do fix it.

It's THAT bad. Given the heritable and functional consequences, perhaps the Biblical penalty for adultery, bestiality, homosexuality, or pedophilia is somewhat more understandable given that these families had to breed sufficient young men to be capable of holding off the likes of the Babylonians, Egyptians, Assyrians, and Hittites. Israel was known for its fecundity until the time of the Roman Empire.

188 posted on 04/23/2015 2:42:11 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate is the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Didn’t even realize I had one until you mentioned this.

= :^)


189 posted on 04/23/2015 2:47:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: xzins

If Rubio “believes” this, then it is part of his religion.


190 posted on 04/23/2015 4:34:24 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: savedbygrace

I’ve heard he attends a big southern Baptist church and also a catholic church. Neither of those teach this, except in the sense that we all inherit sin from Adam.

If it’s part of Rubio’s religious belief system, then it’s his own doing and not from either of the denominations I’ve heard he attends.


191 posted on 04/23/2015 4:38:06 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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