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To: SoConPubbie
So, how do you explain Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton and the absolute failures they were then?

Consider that not everybody you don't like is a "failure." By their own lights, they may have succeeded. Carter surely not, but the other two did manage to stay in office and win high approval ratings.

How would you factor in that many Presidents did not have "Executive" experience before becoming POTUS and actually did a good job?

Tricky question. Most of them had been governors, generals, or heads of government departments -- all executive positions. The three who went directly from the Senate to the White House -- Harding, Kennedy, Obama -- certainly weren't the best bunch.

Garfield and Pierce also weren't great. Pierce was downright awful. Maybe Truman and Lincoln, neither of whom had been governors, did alright. It's not an easy question to answer. They succeeded I guess, but made a lot of mistakes along the way (bear in mind though, that the judge's position Truman had before the Senate is supposed to have been an executive, rather than a judicial position).

87 posted on 04/18/2015 1:33:39 PM PDT by x
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To: x
Consider that not everybody you don't like is a "failure." By their own lights, they may have succeeded. Carter surely not, but the other two did manage to stay in office and win high approval ratings.

That's just relative B.S. that tries to avoid the real issue here.

This is a conservative website. Were Franklin D. Roosevelt, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton successes in terms of being constitutionally sound in their policies and especially from a conservative perspective.

Let's see how honest you can be?
88 posted on 04/18/2015 1:46:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Tricky question. Most of them had been governors, generals, or heads of government departments -- all executive positions. The three who went directly from the Senate to the White House -- Harding, Kennedy, Obama -- certainly weren't the best bunch.

Here are the list of Presidents that did not have Executive experience(Being Governor). Most of these did not meet your qualifications for having executive experience:

1. John Adams

2. James Madison

3. Zachary Taylor

4. Millard Fillmore

5. Franklin Pierce

6. James Buchanan

7. Abraham Lincoln

8. Chester A. Arthur

9. Benjamin Harrison

10. Warren G. Harding

11. Herbert Hoover

12. Harry S. Truman

13. John F. Kennedy

14. Lyndon B. Johnson

15. Richard M. Nixon

16. Gerald Ford

17. George H.W. Bush
90 posted on 04/18/2015 2:13:17 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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