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To: samtheman
The Turks were peoples out of Mongolia and Kazakhstan to sweep westward killing and subjugating the people of Anatolia, who were the original settlers of the Graeco-Roman empire in the area that is now called "Turkey."

The Seljuk Turks turned to Islam as their religion, and it was against their cruelty that the First Crusade was mounted.

The genocide of their Armenian predecessors is not a new thing to them. Such annihilation is a part of the Turkish history. It was the Ottoman Muslim Turks that were stopped from expanding further west than Vienna by Jan Sobieski, but who occupied eastern Europe for hundreds of years until World War One, when they were defeated and destroyed.

It was in this time that the Armenian genocide took place. Wherever they have gone, the Turkish Muslims when in control have treated the subjugated people (Greeks, Romanians, Albanians, etc.) as lower than dogs, fit to be killed at the whimsy of any of their Muslim overlords.

This is exactly why the recent Bosnian war they experienced the desire of their victims to annihilate Islamism from that area. We in the USA should take note of this whole process. If these Mohmmedans take root here and multiply, they will do the same.

The Pope is right, and the Turks complaining about the Crusades is a lame response to their nature, which is to exterminate any opposition to their culture.

Right now, they are in continual battle with the Kurds in the eastern part of Turkey, whom they would utterly destroy, if they could. The Kurds are now fighting just to exist, even though they are also Muslims. The Turks wish to completely stamp out Christianity.

That's the way I see it, and I've known them personally and how thy operate, for forty years.

12 posted on 04/17/2015 3:50:59 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: imardmd1

.....Yet they too, in the course of time will fail against any efforts to get rid of the Christian faith, by killing Christians they produce new believers.


13 posted on 04/17/2015 4:01:04 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: imardmd1

Your post #12 is an excellent summary.


17 posted on 04/17/2015 4:52:16 AM PDT by samtheman ( BushClinton. The Yesterday Candidate.)
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To: imardmd1

When I was deployed to Uzbekistan I learned how closely Uzbeks in Central Asia identify with their Turkish cousins in Asia Minor. Many proudly claim to have one Turkish parent & Uzbek-Turk marriages are commonplace. I made a friend just by pointing out that Uzbekistan’s conversion to the Latin alphabet made it look like Turkiye outside our perimeter.

One Uzbek officer joked that since American Indians are descended from Sibero-Asians, “We Uzbeks headed west and conquered Constantinpole; we headed east and defeated Custer!” They also identify closely with Uighurs in west China.

The Turks I knew from active duty were pleasant enough but they were clearly secular & urban; Ataturk was their hero & we know what he thought of Islam (a pestilence out of Arabia). Their wives wore nonveiled Western garb just like the Uzbek girls who worked for us at K-2.

If Caliph Erdogan remosquifies Hagia Sophia, all bets are off only it will be rival Muslim empires squaring off at each other. Israel does not lie along the traditional invasion routes.


20 posted on 04/17/2015 5:20:57 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease.")
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