Posted on 04/15/2015 7:13:56 AM PDT by C19fan
All the talk about GOP Sen. Marco Rubio’s prospects as a presidential candidate raises an inevitable question for Democratic favorite Hillary Rodham Clinton: If she’s the nominee, will she choose a Latino as her running mate?
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Yep, it’s a winner.
Let’s trade the Mulatto Marxist and his sidekick Dementia Joe the for a Menopausal Marxist and a Chicano Commie.
Yeah, I meant voting immigrants - obviously, since I was talking about elections. But you are aware of legalizing illegals to vote, right?
And yeah, corporate America has sold out American workers.
But you’re not counting literally every other election variable. And especially, you’re not counting those who have refused to vote until someone like Cruz comes along - someone who is anti-RINO.
Remember the midterm victories. In my humble, dense, arrogant opinion, it’s not quite time to give up yet. To the contrary, actually.
YMMV
Actually, the percentage of those voting in Presidential elections is fairly high. It wasn't voters who didn't vote that provided Obama with the two highest vote totals in US history.
It will be interesting to see if Cruz is deemed eligible to be President under the Constitution. Does he qualify as a natural born citizen? Obama was given a pass, but I doubt that Hillary will should Cruz win the nomination.
Remember the midterm victories. In my humble, dense, arrogant opinion, it’s not quite time to give up yet. To the contrary, actually.
The turnout in the midterms is significantly lower. The Reps won big in 2010 and 2014, but they have failed to exercise their power. So what good is it having a GOP Congress if the leadership refuses to confront Obama? The Dems act like they won even if they lose. Reid declared the nuclear option when it came to confirmation of Obama's nominees. The GOP could have changed the rules in the Senate after the 2014 elections and paved the way for the elimination of Obamacare. The Dems used budget reconciliation rules to pass Obamacare.
The Reps avoid confrontation whenever possible. Boehner and McConnell are terrible leaders who lack the stomach for a fight. In many ways they are just Big Government Reps just like Bush 41 and 43. The very arrogance of Jeb Bush to think he can run for the Presidency shows the sad state of the GOP.
The GOP and Dems are just separate wings of the same party. They are bought and paid for by corporate and union interests. 2016 will be another "historic" election with the first woman President. After that it will be the first Hispanic President in 2024. Issues no longer matter. Identity politics have eclipsed the issues. We are taking on the profile of a Banana Republic. Obama rules by decree making a mockery of the Constitution. Demography is destiny.
"Actually, the percentage of those voting in Presidential elections is fairly high."
Yeah, high if you count a hundred million non-voters.
If you're not an actual Rat shill here to spread doom to get people to literally give up and accept their country as lost, then I can't tell the difference.
What's disgusting is that you deny your own words as you say them - at length. Hypocrisy is always ugly, but when its used to encourage good people to give up on their country it's despicable.
I'm done responding to you - your lengthy posts of abject and total defeat clearly prove what you're trying to do here. Clearly.
LOL. You don't need any stinkin' facts. The "nonsense" you are talking about is reality. CA is the canary in the coal mine. I have personally experienced the deterioration of the GOP's fortunes in Northern Virginia. Now VA is a reliable Dem state in the Presidential elections. It has to do with demographics.
You are part of the deluded Reps who think that they can convert Hispanics and immigrants to be Reps if we just give them the right message. The message isn't the problem. It is in their vested interest to be Dems and to support Big Government. Lower taxes and smaller government doesn't resonate.
Yeah, high if you count a hundred million non-voters.
BS. Once you subtract the 20 million green card holders and 12 to 20 million illegal aliens, the participation rate goes up. And the reality is that low turnout helps the GOP. The 2014 midterms had a very low turnout. Overall, the national turnout was 36.3 percent; only the 1942 federal election had a lower participation rate at 33.9 percent.
Romney received 1 million more votes than McCain and Obama received 3.5 million votes less than he did in 2008. He still won by five million votes.
If you're not an actual Rat shill here to spread doom to get people to literally give up and accept their country as lost, then I can't tell the difference.
I recognize that your comprehension skills are less than average, but I provided a way back for the GOP linking the Jeff Sessions and my articles. I have been actively participating in the process at the local level including briefing GOP candidates and being a delegate at state conventions, and participating in various demonstrations. You are part of the problem because you don't understand why the Reps are losing. You subscribe to the happy talk and fail to comprehend how demography is reshaping the electorate. We are no longer the same country we were in the 1970s and 1980s. We are being Balkanized along cultural, ethnic, linguistic, and racial lines.
What's disgusting is that you deny your own words as you say them - at length. Hypocrisy is always ugly, but when its used to encourage good people to give up on their country it's despicable.
Empty, meaningless gibberish. I have yet to hear one constructive suggestion from you on how the Reps must proceed to avoid becoming the permanent minority party. What are you doing personally to address this problem. What state do you live in?
I'm done responding to you - your lengthy posts of abject and total defeat clearly prove what you're trying to do here. Clearly.
You can't handle the truth. Your only response is invective and ad hominem attacks. An empty drum makes the most noise.
Well thanks for banging the drum that everything is hopeless and there's no possible way to beat the Democrats. Because that's what you are saying - that's it, that's all of it. And while you accuse really good, I've got to laugh since you're posting entire books, complete with graphs and charts, while claiming I'm making the most noise. And what's you're point? That there's nothing that can be done to defeat the Left - but after you saying that in a hundred ways, you then get pissed when I point it out? LOL, talk about making noise. I think I outed a RINO here!
What do you care what I say? How can I possibly damage you or your reputation - you say nothing conservatives do will work. So I'm irrelevant, because we're all doomed anyway, right? On the other hand if we're not doomed, then you're pissed that we might prove you wrong and WIN. So that's what you call an insult - my argument that the Right can win! LOL, yeah, you're a FReeper alright - the FReeper who takes it as a personal insult the very idea that there's some possibility to turn the country around through voting for conservative candidates.
I think you're a fraud.
I said you have a comprehension problem. I provided you with the way the GOP can compete with the Dems. First, reduce legal immigration significantly, something the overwhelming majority of Americans support. Second, stop listening to their corporate paymasters and take up the cause of American workers. Jeff Sessions laid it all out for you. Did you even bother to read it? I doubt it.
Jeff Sessions on Becoming the Party of Work.
When Americans went to the polls in 2012, the following was true: Work-force participation had sunk to its lowest level in 35 years, wages had fallen below 1999 levels, and 47 million Americans were on food stamps. Yet Mitt Romney, the challenger to the incumbent president, lost lower- and middle-income voters by an astonishing margin. Among voters earning $30,000 to $50,000, he trailed by 15 points, and among voters earning under $30,000 he trailed by 28 points.
And what did the GOP’s brilliant consultant class conclude from this resounding defeat? They declared that the GOP must embrace amnesty. The Republican National Committee dutifully issued a report calling for a “comprehensive immigration reform” that would inevitably increase the flow of low-skilled immigration, reducing the wages and living standards of the very voters whose trust the GOP had lost.
Over the past four decades, as factories were shuttered and blue-collar jobs were outsourced or automated, net immigration quadrupled. Yet the corporate-consultant class has pronounced that an insufficient level of immigration is the problem. A more colossal misreading of the political moment has rarely occurred.
Perhaps the most important political development now unfolding in the U.S. is the public’s growing loss of faith in our political and financial elites of both parties. To open the ears of disaffected voters, the GOP must break publicly from the elite immigration consensus of Wall Street and Davos. Republicans have a clear path to building a conservative majority if they free themselves from the corporate consultants and demonstrate to the American public that the GOP is the only party aligned with the core interests, concerns, and beliefs of everyday hardworking citizens.
But the immigration “principles” offered by House GOP leaders imply that record immigration levels must be increased further to meet “the needs of employers.” One such GOP proposal — to provide the food industry with half a million low-skilled workers each year — was polled by Rasmussen. Nearly 70 percent of independent voters opposed it.
“Most business leaders have long favored more open immigration. Different businesses want different kinds of people,” a prominent GOP fundraiser declared on TV. “A restaurant may want waiters and cooks; a hospital wants nurses and doctors; a university wants physicists; a business like Exelon needs more engineers.” Asked by the interviewer about hiring U.S. workers for open jobs, he replied that many of those now unemployed are “unable to compete for them.”
Is that the message of a winning party? It might win a majority of votes at a dinner party in a gated community in Bel Air, but it is an act of profound delusion to think that plan can form the basis of a nationwide Republican resurgence.
Democrats in Washington have already cast their lot. A recent report from the Center for Immigration Studies shows that all net employment gains from 2000 to 2013 — a period of record legal immigration — went to immigrant workers, and yet the immigration plan championed by the White House and congressional Democrats would triple the number of immigrants given permanent legal status over the next decade, and it would double the annual flow of guest workers to compete for jobs in every sector of the U.S. economy. The Democrats’ plan delivers for international corporations, open-borders groups, and even workers now living in other countries — all at the expense of American workers.
So Republicans have a choice. They can either join the Democrats as the second political party in Washington advocating uncontrolled immigration, or they can offer the public a principled alternative and represent the American workers Democrats have jettisoned. Republicans can either help the White House enact an immigration plan that will hollow out the American middle class, or they can finally expose the truth about the White House plan and detail the enormous harm it will inflict.
Republicans could then illustrate how, on every policy front, the Left embraces an agenda that benefits only the fortunate few. Their agenda includes: energy restrictions that destroy jobs and drive up costs; maze-like administrative rules that only the largest companies can navigate; nationalized health care that shrinks the work force; Federal Reserve stimulus, which helps big firms at the expense of small savers; taxes and regulation that close plants and send work overseas; massive spending that makes Washington a boomtown while impoverishing the nation; bureaucratic interference in schools and homes; intrusive government; a surging welfare state; endless deficits; and an increasingly open-borders immigration plan. Each of these policies directly harms working Americans. Each of these policies serves the political interests of Democrats while entailing lower pay, fewer hours, and higher unemployment for dedicated American workers.
On the other hand if we're not doomed, then you're pissed that we might prove you wrong and WIN. So that's what you call an insult - my argument that the Right can win! LOL, yeah, you're a FReeper alright - the FReeper who takes it as a personal insult the very idea that there's some possibility to turn the country around through voting for conservative candidates.
How do you convince people to vote for conservative candidates? And who are these "conservatives" you are referring to when it comes to voting for them? Who are the conservatives you are supporting? We are doomed if we continue to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. We are losing and must change course if we expect to win. Jeff Sessions, Mike Lee, David Vitter, Scott walker, and Ted Cruz are for altering our course and stop following the GOP Establishment, which is leading us over a cliff.
You speak in vague generalities. You present no intellectual argument and fail to define specifically what needs to be done. You are a joke.
I think you're a fraud.
No, you are the fraud who wraps himself with the conservative label but lacks the intelligence to provide specifics.
Well let's see, I said we need to vote for conservative candidates like Cruz in my post #82, which you copied and rejected in your post #83. And now you reject and question the existence of such candidates while literally naming them, including Cruz, while personally insulting me for having no ideas while you praise yourself for your brilliance.
That about sums you up - you're just a one-man hypocritical doom show who's narcissistically touchy about any disagreement and who steals my ideas for solutions while attacking me as not having what you stole. And it's proven by your own posts in this thread.
In short, you've proven yourself intellectually dishonest, abusive, manipulative, hypocritical, pompous, seeking to undermine conservative efforts, and utterly not worth my time.
I think that's about it.
In psychology, that is called projection. You have no ideas or solutions. You have not mentioned your position on immigration and what constitutes the "conservative" position. You just confine yourself to personal attacks and not substance. You are NOT a conservative. You don't have the intellectual wherewithal.
Well it's clear I'm insane, because I disagree with you. And of course that's the very definition of insanity.
Oh well, at least we both agree on Cruz - right? Or do you theoretically support him, but given immigration demographics see no possible chance for him to win, therefore you're voting merely out of duty as a true conservative while braced for the absolute certainty of failure? And of course your vote would be different than mine because I have no solutions but think Cruz can win, while you do have solutions but you think Cruz can't win?
LOL!
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