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To: RitaOK
Our problem is we had no good candidates last time (I supported Newt, he would have been destroyed if he had won. Too bi-polar, too much baggage). Absolutely not a one was any good.

This time we have two very good candidates, along with a host of other decent ones, along with a few horrid ones (Jeb, etc.) that the MSM will let suck oxygen out of the room of the two best ones.

We need a plan for the fracturing of the nomination with all these running.......15% for Jeb while Walker, and Cruz get 14%, and five others get 10% is a disaster......

25 posted on 04/14/2015 12:40:13 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Lakeshark

I agree, and always wished we had, in the primary, a week certain to come together around the leading conservative. It’s way down the road, in a sense, or, unless Bush takes off somehow in the primary polls.

I think Bush is running a general election campaign now, which will NOT sell in the primary. With us having several bright conservative candidates who can chew gum, I don’t see how he can hope to advance in the primary at all.


32 posted on 04/14/2015 1:06:56 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Lakeshark; RitaOK; Finny
Lakeshark: Your point is well taken that we lacked good candidates last time and that this time we have Walker, Cruz and, I would argue, others.

In order to avoid the scenario you have posited in which Jeb Bush benefits from conservative division, we, as conservatives, must arrive at an early consensus candidate and deliver the bad news, with respect, to the rest. The crucial moment to accomplish this is BEFORE the delegate contests begin.

We also need to insist that each and every conservative candidate accept this arrangement and also agree to campaign like never before to elect the chosen conservative nominee.

While I presently favor Walker, I am certainly open to others including Rubio, Cruz, and even Paul (with substantial reservations needing to be cleared in his case). I may be forgetting others but I think those are the main contenders.

We cannot insist on perfection but we can guide any of them closer to perfection as a limit. There will be a flood of money behind Jeb Bush but money is only good to facilitate the gathering of votes. Romney had plenty of that money last time but he never got the votes of me and many here. If we stick together as a determined band of principled conservatives, choose one candidate and vote for that candidate in the delegate contests, then no amount of money can stop our chosen candidate from being nominated and, if we have chosen well, from being elected POTUS.

Hillary is a shopworn, weary old thing afflicted with a sense of unjustified entitlement. She is very close to being as old as I am. and that is NOT good news for her enthusiasts. Only in leftist world is the Medusa entitled to anything and then mostly in her own mind. The Demonrats are going to do us a major favor by nominating her. Elizabeth Fauxcahontas Warren would be a far fresher face and formidable opponent. Unlike Hillary, Fauxcahontas has genuine political talent and a capacity for credible populism, despite her ethnic fantasy. The radicals pushing Warren to run are a lot smarter than the usual gang of suspects around the Medusa.

91 posted on 04/14/2015 9:32:20 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Rack 'em Danno!)
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