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Gap remains in video record of fatal SC police shooting
Associated Press ^ | Apr 11, 2015 12:05 AM EDT | Jeffrey Collins and Michael Biesecker

Posted on 04/10/2015 10:12:14 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Dashboard video shows a police officer making a routine traffic stop. Cellphone video shows the officer shooting the fleeing motorist in the back. What remains a mystery is what happened during the minutes in between that led the police officer to become a killer.

The dash cam footage released by state police on Thursday showed North Charleston Officer Michael Thomas Slager pulling over black motorist Walter Scott for a broken brake light last weekend. Slager, who is white, has been charged with murder in Scott’s death. […]

What’s missing is what happens from the time the two men run out of the frame of dashboard video to the time picked up in a bystander’s cellphone video a few hundred yards away. The cellphone footage starts with Scott getting to his feet and running away, then Slager firing eight shots at the man’s back. “It is possible for something to happen in that gap to significantly raise the officer’s perception of risk,” said Seth Stoughton, a former police officer and criminal law professor at the University of South Carolina.

Scott was more than $17,500 behind in child support—more than $18,000 with court fees—and had been in jail three times over the issue. He last paid child support in 2012, court records show, and a bench warrant for his arrest was issued in early 2013. His family has said that he might have run because he was behind on payments again and didn’t want to go back to jail. …

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: childsupport; donutwatch; northcharleston; slager; thomasslager; video; walterscott
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To: Jonty30

Not true. The wires attached to the taser go with Scott at first, it looks like, then the taser falls to the ground, IN FRONT of Slager.


61 posted on 04/11/2015 6:16:45 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Never in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Yeah, you’re right. I know that it’s quite common for cops to drop sunglasses, a big square box of sunglasses, at a crime scene where they’ve just shot a man multiple times in the back. Maybe he thought the sun was in Scott’s eyes as he lay there, dead??


62 posted on 04/11/2015 6:19:24 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Never in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: Reverend Wright

Now you’ve got him carjacking!!!! Talk about projection!!! Oh my gosh, you ARE nuts. laughing out loud.


63 posted on 04/11/2015 6:22:22 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Never in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason.)
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To: freebilly; Reverend Wright

He is. He’s got this entire scenario made up, where Scott is going to run into a crowded public place, shoot people with his non existent gun and carjack a car. So of course Scott HAD to kill him first! And Scott went back to pick up sunglasses, which were in a big block shape, and drop them by the dead man, just in case he needed them, ya know.


64 posted on 04/11/2015 6:25:25 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Shimmer1

cuffing the suspect is standard procedure, it doesn’t matter if they think he’s dead, he gets the cuffs.

at the Miami Shootout, two fbi agents were killed and one was seriously wounded by a suspect with “non-survivable” bullet wounds. Michael Platt was unconscious, but then he ‘woke up” and shot 3 more people.

i posted a picture of a police taser and sunglasses in 24. can you honestly say that what Slager threw down beside Scott looks more like the sunglasses than the taser?


65 posted on 04/11/2015 6:35:46 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: Reverend Wright

In 24 what? I looked at post 24, that’s not your post. I’m missing something here....


66 posted on 04/11/2015 6:52:19 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Reverend Wright

In 24 what? I looked at post 24, that’s not your post. I’m missing something here....

Oh! i found it, right under my nose. In 25. Doesn’t in the least resemble sunglasses to me. In fact, I’ll go so far as to say...sunglasses? No way.


67 posted on 04/11/2015 6:53:40 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Sooth2222

A family member of mine just sold that type of Merc for $500. It was an ‘84.


68 posted on 04/11/2015 6:55:03 AM PDT by PrairieLady2 (`)
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To: USNBandit

http://heavy.com/news/2015/04/michael-slager-police-dispatch-radio-911-audio-recording-walter-scott-shooting-murder-south-carolina-scanner/

Slager calls in the foot chase at 10:35

he calls in shots fired at 12:25.

Taser taser taser is not heard on this audio. it must be early if its audible in the car. that would be the first taser deployment. the second was in the park


69 posted on 04/11/2015 6:57:53 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: Shimmer1

“Wow, that is SUCH a stretch!!”

Slager could not subdue Scott with 2 taser shots plus physical restraint.

now he thinks Scott has the taser to use as a contact stun gun.

Slager is not supposed to put himself in a position where he could be incapacitated


70 posted on 04/11/2015 7:04:45 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: Shimmer1

http://heavy.com/news/2015/04/michael-slager-police-dispatch-radio-911-audio-recording-walter-scott-shooting-murder-south-carolina-scanner/

at 12:25 Slager calls in shots fired, he also calls in “he grabbed my taser”

no mind reading required


71 posted on 04/11/2015 7:10:27 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: Reverend Wright
do you really think this looks like a taser? http://imgur.com/gallery/DTYSXXC

Thanks for the gif. It looks like a model 36 (or 37) Smith & Wesson revolver.

72 posted on 04/11/2015 7:10:40 AM PDT by Does so (SCOTUS Newbies Imperil USA...)
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To: Sirius Lee

If Scott had Slagers taser he could take hostages since the taser could be still used in stun-drive mode


73 posted on 04/11/2015 7:16:49 AM PDT by chemical_boy
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To: Reverend Wright

No, don’t pretend you don’t know what I’m talking about. You’ve made up this entire fantasy of Scott running toward a public place, grabbing guns willy-nilly, carjacking, you name it.


74 posted on 04/11/2015 7:55:11 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Reverend Wright

Slager is standing back, a comfortable 40-50 feet behind a guy that is running away, and shoots him in the back, multiple times. It doesn’t seem very incapacitated to me.

And you don’t know that Slager thinks Scott has the taser, since the video shows wires attached to Scott, then being pulled out and dropping, connected to the “sunglasses” right in front of him.


75 posted on 04/11/2015 7:57:28 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. MLK)
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To: Reverend Wright
im not a lawyer, but i read a lot of law blogs yesterday. and some quite liberal lawyers made the argument that juries allow wide latitude to police officers on deadly force issues. (they’re liberal so they didn’t like it).

They do, because in most cases all they have is the word of the police officer that he believed his life, or the life or safety of others, was in danger and he had to resort to deadly force. In this case it is clear that neither the police officer or anyone else was in any danger whatsoever when he fired 8 shots at the fleeing suspect. I can't see the jury taking the BS account of the police officer over their own eyes.

the standard is serious risk of physical harm. and they are going to try to portray Scott as posing that risk.

And that will be darned near impossible, given the video as well as the lack of any sign of injury to the officer.

76 posted on 04/11/2015 8:03:54 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Shimmer1; doodledog; USNBandit; raybbr; freebilly; Sirius Lee; chemical_boy

so here is what i wanted to put up today.

you know how we have been hearing that CPR was never given to Scott, that Slager and Habersham never did any CPR and they all falsified their reports blah blah blah

https://soundcloud.com/tom-cleary-17/officer-michael-slager-dispatch-audio-walter-scott-shooting

at 16:55 Habersham radios in Scott’s wound location for EMS. he gives Scott’s status as “unresponsive” (which is unconscious but breathing and a pulse )

at 17:30 Habersham radios “i’ve started chest compression” ( that’s CPR ! )

so the NYT claimed to have listened to this whole thing and claims no CPR. every other news organization just copies this no CPR crap and didn’t check either.

they are still stringing out articles based on this. here is one from the LA Times today.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-south-carolina-cpr-20150411-story.html

what the hell kind of reporting is this ?


77 posted on 04/11/2015 8:08:50 AM PDT by Reverend Wright (Go Nigel !)
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To: Shimmer1

I’ve heard that but, in any degree, require malice and aforethought.

I think it was reactionary and adrenaline induced.

He did not intend to kill him, I don’t think.


78 posted on 04/11/2015 8:24:16 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Reverend Wright

Yep.


79 posted on 04/11/2015 8:26:18 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: ctdonath2

Because he had no aforethought nor planned to kill the man.

The stop sas professional until the guy ran and it’s then that the cop reacts, as if he is shooting a jackrabbit


80 posted on 04/11/2015 8:26:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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