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To: DiogenesLamp
You are unfamiliar with Abraham Lincoln's presidency? Then you are ill suited to engage in a discussion on this topic.

You made a simple claim, I'm asking for simple proof. What was the groundwork Lincoln laid for Fedzilla?

It means that if you want the Federal troops to stop harassing your citizens, you'll vote the way you are told. Again, your intellectual prowess doesn't seem up to the task of a a discussion on this topic.

So they were harassing everyday voters? How did they know which ones supported the 14th amendment and which ones didn't?

And the fact that Jimmy Carter virtually singlehandedly turned what used to be a close ally into one of our worst enemies does not intrude upon your consciousness. Obama couldn't be screwing up Iran, had Jimmy Carter not made it possible for him to do so.

So the Muslims would never had turned against us if not for Jimmy Carter? I find that hard to believe and I despise Jimmy Carter. I think Iran would have eventually turned against us no matter what due to our closest ally in the region being Israel.

It is irrelevant that Lincoln didn't write it.

LOL!!

No doubt he would have done a far better job than John Bingham et al, but the fact remains is that he put the writers into a position whereby they had the power to force this piece of garbage down other throats in a deliberate violation of the spirit, if not the letter of the constitutional amendment process.

Wh..Wh..What?! lol

It is safe to say, that without coercion provided by Lincoln, the drafters of the 14th amendment wouldn't have gotten it added to the US Constitution.

Coercion provided by Lincoln? What coercion?

And this is where I wonder what is the point in attempting a discussion with you. You just don't seem to have the necessary understanding of history to contribute anything useful.

Just a simple explanation is all I am asking for. What was this "groundwork" for Fedzilla. When was this "groundwork" laid? I don't see any evidence of any groundwork. All you have cited is the 14th amendment which Lincoln didn't write and his Vice President vetoed, and was put into motion years after Lincoln's murder.

And another example of just how "out there" you are from my perspective. You really don't need to be sitting at the adult table regarding this topic.

I'm "out there" because I want an example of something, anything, Lincoln did to create Fedzilla?

569 posted on 05/11/2015 10:54:51 PM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
You made a simple claim, I'm asking for simple proof. What was the groundwork Lincoln laid for Fedzilla?

You really don't seem worth arguing with. You sound like the "Black Knight" protesting "Tis but a flesh wound."

Again, anyone who would ask such a question doesn't grasp enough of what happened to be able to provide any useful dialogue on the subject.

572 posted on 05/12/2015 6:27:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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