Posted on 04/08/2015 8:01:30 AM PDT by rktman
To extract hydrogen from natural compounds such as water, methane, or coal requires very large inputs of energy. Most commonly, hydrogen is produced from methane gas using heat and steam, or by electrolysis of water using large quantities of electricity.
Hydrogen can be used to power rockets, cars, and engines of all types. However, the energy used to produce the hydrogen can never be fully recovered from the energy in the hydrogen. It is thus not a source of energy. It is merely a storehouse for energy – a battery.
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
I actually had a greenie say we should put windmills on cars to power them.
I seen you guys joke about this on the forum, but I thought it was hyperbole only.
Boy are these global warming alarmist’s dumb.
Somebody at American Thinker chose to be lazy ...
After NASA, the largest user of Hydrogen is the US refining industry. Hydrogen is used to meet the EPA ultra-low sulfur fuel requirements.
I’m only posting. LOL! But thanks.
Use that to "make" Hydrogen from water.
As a bonus, we may get to keep the monster from erupting?
“I actually had a greenie say we should put windmills on cars to power them.”
Back in 1977 a nuclear engineering magazine ran a satire on its inside back page. It did this every month.
In one issue, it focused on the use of windmills on cars.
I remember because that was my senior year in college and I had gone to a meeting of one of the anti-nuclear alliances. In that meeting they were so excited when one of the members started reading from the article ... till I pointed out that it was satire.
I say we drill some pressure relief holes now. There is one casino/resort facility that I know of here in Reno that uses thermal for a lot of energy savings.
There are some ships that use “windmills” so that they can move directly into the wind and not have to track in the wind. They are at a standstill with no wind just like sails.
Keep it to yourself, but I am currently working on a solar-powered windmill. Or maybe a windmill-powered solar cell. Anyway, as soon as I have faked collected enough data, I'll be applying for a government grant.
Along with ethanol another net negative energy option.
I was expecting an article frought with scientific inconsistancies and urban chemistry myths. Yet the author’s premise is correct in that hydrogen, although yes it can store energy etc in principle, is difficult to handle safely for mass distribution for a variety of reasons, and isn’t the magic bullet of energy storage mediums that it is often touted to be.
I am still a fan of the left thinking that plugging their electric car into an outlet attached to their house is saving energy.
When I tell them they should put solar panels on their homes to use only for their car, they say “what happens in the winter?” It’s at that point the light bulb goes off.
“Keep it to yourself, but I am currently working on a solar-powered windmill. Or maybe a windmill-powered solar cell. Anyway, as soon as I have faked collected enough data, I’ll be applying for a government grant.”
Now, if you put windmills off the coast and used the energy from those to drive desalination facilities you might have something. The lefts excuse for not doing this is it wouldn’t work because there wouldn’t be enough electricity. Then the light bulb goes off.
I’m surprised NASA uses that much. Even rockets sometimes use highly refined kerosene rather than hydrogen.
I remember when a very “SMART” individual in the early 1900’s said; “EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE INVENTED, HAS ALREADY BEEN INVENTED”. In my opinion, at some time in the future, there will be a manor a woman, will invent, in his or her garage, a machine that will run on hydrogen. He or she will figure out a way to make it cheaply. I will remind everyone, that in the recent past (100+ years or so) aluminum was more expensive than silver, because there was no way to extract aluminum cheaply. I will also remind everyone, that a man, in his garage, invented a method to extract this metal very cheap. The rest is history
Iceland is independent from fossil fuels now that their huge fishing fleet is powered by volcanoes!
It has to do with how much energy you get back from a unit mass of fuel. Because you have to lift the fuel, it frequently makes sense to use the most energetic fuel you can.
Which is why kerosene only seems to used in first stages like the Saturn V.
I tend to agree with you.
As long as we stay free.
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