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To: Robert Teesdale

“Some things are clearly apparent right away. “

Well then why even bother with a trial, since what you seem to be saying is he is guilty until proven otherwise. I guess I misunderstood that whole thing about presumption of innocence.

Looks like the MSM is doing a good job these days. Obama must be very happy.


111 posted on 04/08/2015 11:14:23 AM PDT by JabaliHunter
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To: JabaliHunter
Well then why even bother with a trial, since what you seem to be saying is he is guilty until proven otherwise. I guess I misunderstood that whole thing about presumption of innocence.

The videotaped evidence is damning. The body language of the officer is relaxed, unhurried, and murderous. The body language of the citizen, prior to his decease, may well be "fleeing" but it looks a lot more to me like a fat man waddling away in terror than a "immediate lethal danger to the public that warranted unhesitating application of deadly force."

If you read rather than react, you will see I have consistently stated that a due process trial is part of the demanded outcome here.

Looks like the MSM is doing a good job these days. Obama must be very happy.

The video evidence of capital murder is unquestionably sufficient for trial. I have no opinion on any contradictory evidence. Projection is not prediction. There's no question that the shooter deserves a fair and speedy trial. I don't worry that he will be denied one.

All the statism here seems to be based on fear of admitting the State really is NOT your friend after all and not on concern for rights or process or evidence or anything else.

I understand. It is hard to admit your culture died and your nation is gone and that the uniforms and honor you once admired have turned and are now purely representative of evil in many fundamental ways. Tip: the State is not your friend. The State is not the friend of anyone, but more a natural force that flows from fatal power and is channeled by the fallen nature of Man.

I'll add that when I say uniform, I mean domestically. I suspect our true military forces (not these weaponized steroid-pumped Barney "Pew Pew Pew" Fife disgraces that pass for LEO's today) would gladly show up a few SWAT teams that raided the wrong house one too many times.

I've never heard armed insurrection whispered into an empty well at midnight, in ill-remembered dreams. I won't admit to it.
116 posted on 04/08/2015 11:56:28 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: JabaliHunter
Well then why even bother with a trial, since what you seem to be saying is he is guilty until proven otherwise. I guess I misunderstood that whole thing about presumption of innocence.

Correct, you have misunderstood it. The presumption of innocence applies to a court of law.

FR is not a court of law, but rather a discussion forum. No one's opinion here makes a suspect guilty.

122 posted on 04/08/2015 12:52:08 PM PDT by Ken H
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