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To: fastkelly

That’s one legal theory however nineteen court rulings have said that Obama is a natural born citizen and no court ruling has ever said that he is ineligible.
For example: Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born Citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born Citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012


51 posted on 04/01/2015 10:18:29 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus; Ray76; OneWingedShark; DiogenesLamp
Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born.

Of course it doesn't. The federal government started this new type of citizen years ago called statutory natural born. to supplant the sovereignty of other nations by disregarding the pesky thing known as Natural Allegiance.

Not to mention that the term itself in real world language means Man-made human being.

Statutory law is man made, or positive law .
n. statutory man-made law, as compared to "natural law," which is purportedly based on universally accepted moral principles, "God's law," and/or derived from nature and reason. The term "positive law" was first used by Thomas Hobbes in Leviathan (1651).

As compared to Natural Law
n. 1) standards of conduct derived from traditional moral principles (first mentioned by Roman jurists in the first century A.D.) and/or God's law and will. The biblical ten commandments, such as "thou shall not kill," are often included in those principles. Natural law assumes that all people believe in the same Judeo-Christian God and thus share an understanding of natural law premises.
2) the body of laws derived from nature and reason, embodied in the Declaration of Independence assertion that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness."
3) the opposite of "positive law," which is created by mankind through the state.

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Read the last one again:
3) the opposite of "positive law," which is created by mankind through the state.

So if, by legal definitions, natural law is the OPPOSITE of statutory law....

how can it create a natural born citizen?

54 posted on 04/01/2015 1:55:08 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Nero Germanicus

If I were in this Judges shoes, I would come to the same decision to protect my family.


55 posted on 04/01/2015 2:05:01 PM PDT by fastkelly
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To: Nero Germanicus
You back here doing your court cheerleader impression again? You might as well put on a skirt and buy some pom poms.

You still aren't getting it. The Conservative side of the Aisle has little respect for the Judiciary. We consider them to be idiots. They would be a comedy team if the results of their willful ignorance/deliberate defiance weren't so tragic.

This is a fancy way of saying you simply pushing an argumentum ad nauseam. (Another Fallacy.)

57 posted on 04/01/2015 2:23:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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