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To: servo1969

The Lord God gave us a free will; He didn’t want ‘robots’ that He forced to worship and obey Him, but a creation that would choose to love Him back for His love toward them.


2 posted on 03/30/2015 7:29:33 AM PDT by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: Patriot777

The “God doesn’t want robots” argument doesn’t seem to stand up. Because that would seem to imply that we’ll be robots in heaven when we are perfect.


5 posted on 03/30/2015 7:37:37 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: Patriot777

I agree, but I’m always puzzled by the wording of this

http://biblehub.com/romans/9-17.htm


7 posted on 03/30/2015 7:44:44 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Patriot777

The human will is not sovereign, only God is sovereign. A God who isn’t sovereign over all isn’t much of a god. Thankfully, the God of the Bible is sovereign. The Bible makes it so clear.

“A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.” (Proverbs 16:9)

“It is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of His good pleasure” (Phil. 2: 13)

Scripture emphatically says, “It is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy” (Rom. 9:16). Do we believe God or the free will preachers?

The Word expressly declares, “There is none that seeketh after God” (Rom. 3:11). If God didn’t violate the so-called freedom of some men, no one would ever be saved.

In and of himself the natural man has power to reject Christ; but in and of himself he lacks the power to receive Christ. And why? Because he has a mind that is “enmity against” Him (Rom. 8:7); because he has a heart that hates Him (John 15:18). Man chooses that which is according to his nature, and therefore before he will ever choose or prefer that which is Divine and spiritual a new nature must be imparted to him; in other words, he must be born again.

Jesus said, “No man can come to Me, except the Father which hath sent Me, draw him (John 6:44). “No man can”

God’s people must be made willing in the day of His power (Psa. 110:3).

For most of my years I too believed in man’s free will. Coming to understand divine sovereignty changed my life. I don’t want to argue over it and I can’t hang around to discuss it today, but if anyone is interested, I can suggest a number of free resources to help understand this from a biblical point of view. Divine sovereignty is perhaps the most comforting truth you will ever encounter.


10 posted on 03/30/2015 8:02:57 AM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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