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But you are, sir, you are!. You and others on this thread keep insisting this was a deliberate act by the co-pilot with nothing to indicate anything of the sort other than some reported noises on the CVR. I’m telling you an inexperienced #2 unfamiliar and/or overwhelmed with the A320 could easily put the cockpit door switch in the wrong position, just as easily as they could put the autopilot in the wrong position, or get single instrument fixation. I’ve told you what has happened previously to cause A320 crashes, gave specific, easily verifiable examples and said that the circumstances here make me very suspicious that we have witnessed yet another Airbus flight computer malfunction based on reading the accident reports, along with my own flight experience. I’m also telling you that low time pilots, complex aircraft and disorientation go hand in hand. Do some research. You’re comparing a state-of-the-art flying machine to a 70’s Ford Pinto for crying out loud and I’m the one being silly? LOL! Thanks for the laugh!


132 posted on 03/26/2015 9:05:53 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: Thermalseeker
I am not concluding anything. I am saying that the available evidence presented so far seems to point to a deliberate act by the co-pilot. There is NOTHING in the evidence so far that points to the historical mechanical problems with this particular plane.

Your experience as a pilot is mildly interesting, but it gives you absolutely no additional insight into the cause of this crash, however desperately you want it to add weight to your comments.

You and I both have the same evidence about this particular plane crash. It is entirely possible that everything we are hearing about this crash is a complete lie, but you have no evidence of that and the fact that you are a pilot has no bearing on the validity of the information presented so far.

134 posted on 03/26/2015 9:11:43 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3012053/Andreas-Lubitz-Germanwings-flight-9525-French-alps-crash-French-alps-Germanwings-plane-crash-Airbus-A320-Barcelonnette.html
The co-pilot of the doomed Germanwings jet locked his captain out of the cockpit before deliberately crashing into a mountain to ‘destroy the plane’, it was sensationally revealed today.

French prosecutor Brice Robin gave further chilling details of the final ten minutes in the cockpit before the Airbus A320 plunged into the French Alps killing 150 people.

Revealing data extracted from the black box voice recorder, he said the co-pilot - 28-year-old German Andreas Lubitz - locked his captain out after the senior officer left the cockpit.

At that point, Lubitz used the flight managing system to put the plane into a descent, something that can only be done manually - and deliberately.

He said: ‘The intention was to destroy the plane. Death was instant. The plane hit the mountain at 700kmh (430mph).

‘I don’t think that the passengers realised what was happening until the last moments because on the recording you only hear the screams in the final seconds’

Earlier in the flight, Mr Robin said Lubitz’s responses were initially courteous, but became ‘curt’ when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing of the plane.

The captain - named by local media as German father-of-two Patrick Sonderheimer - then left the cockpit but found himself locked out when he tried to re-enter.

Mr Robin said: ‘We hear the pilot asking the co-pilot to take over and we hear the sound of a chair being pushed back and a door closing so we assume that the captain went to the toilet or something.

‘So the co-pilot is on his own, and it is while he’s on his own that the co-pilot is in charge of the plane and uses the flight management system to start the descent of the plane.

‘At this altitude, this can only be done voluntarily. We hear several shouts from the captain asking to get in, speaking through the intercom system, but there’s no answer from the cockpit.’

Audio from the recording captures Mr Sonderheimer furiously pounding on the door to no avail.


136 posted on 03/26/2015 9:17:58 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Race Baiting...... "It's What's For Breakfast")
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