“IIRC, urban Amish are the worst nontippers of all.”
They sneak bottles in to bars so they can drink cheap, play pool, steal from the happy hour buffet, etc. And of course, who besides them would go to a bar full of them? A bar with, er, urban Amish patrons, is a bar that is out of business.
Then there is the whole shoplifting from supermarkets meme, and the periodic lootings and arson.
They are not capable of sustaining a community.
dittos!! on what you said.