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To: FreedomStar3028

I’m not an architectural engineer, but I do have a degree from Purdue in Civil Engineering Technology and worked several years at Indiana Dept. of Tranportation as a tech specializing in “testing to fail” concrete and steel re-inforced concrete.
I also worked as an engineering contractor with the Corps of Engineers during the construction of one of the last (artillery) black powder production plants in the US, specifically construction of its blast walls (4 feet thick) and control room blast protection.
Our little company was also involved in the preliminary testing of modern “bunker buster” warheads, as we engineered and constructed the test targets, the bunkers these munitions were tested upon and their after effects. Artillery MOS in Vietnam and so on...as it is I’ve seen lots of things get blown up.

What pancake? From the videos I’ve seen the buildings seemed to be turned into loose debris from the top down in a huge expanding fount of dust and debris . The act of falling down does not impart enough energy to accomplish this, this is more like a tree that is turned to sawdust from the top down, somehow.

I don’t know what happened to those buildings that day nor do I even pretend to... I do know what didn’t happen, however.


70 posted on 03/12/2015 8:24:34 PM PDT by garryowenartillery ( 1/21FA, 1st Cav Div (Airmobile) RVN... FT. Greely, Alaska (ATC) Gerstle River Project)
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To: garryowenartillery

A very effective way to keep people in the dark is to divert attention to anything but the truth of WHAT happened on 911. Until that is clearer the who and why and how are not going to get to the truth.


71 posted on 03/12/2015 8:27:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: garryowenartillery

The majority of debris fell onto itself. Of course when you have something big that collapse debris is going to go everywhere, but most of it fell straight down. A bunch of floors failed and fell straight down on top of the next floor causing it to collapse.

The outside parts of the building went out, which happen to be mostly outside scaffolding/glass/window framing, etc. But the floors sat on trusses connected to the underside support structure of every floor. Meant to support ONE floor each. Maybe two floors could have been supported by the trusses. But it wasn’t enough to hold the top third or so of the building. 5 or so compromised floors failed, and dropped on top of the next floor in line. Which made the next floor in line fail faster and faster.

If you watch, you can literally see it happen. Top of South Tower goes like this:
1.) debris goes outward from those damaged floors falling.
2.) half second or so pause.
3.) then the South Tower falls.......top down

The reason you don’t know what happened is because you haven’t seen it happen before. You’ve only seen explosives destroy. Since that’s what you’ve seen mostly, you know for sure it wasn’t explosive. Good enough for me.


73 posted on 03/12/2015 9:39:19 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: garryowenartillery

Are you saying the official story is horseshit? Because it’s plausible. More than plausible. Not to mention all the gaping holes in every truther conspiracy theory about motive. Also the who why and how.

No truther theories hold up.


77 posted on 03/13/2015 12:01:50 AM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: garryowenartillery
There was plenty of metal left in the rubble, unless you have numbers to prove otherwise.

Jumbo jets with full fuel tanks, along with the design of the building, are what allowed it to fall. No alien or human technologies rendered the WTC metal to “powderize.”

92 posted on 03/13/2015 3:12:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: garryowenartillery

http://drjudywood.com/towers/group3.html#ch8

all the strongest architectural components turned to dust, paper floated away...


95 posted on 03/13/2015 4:27:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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