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University of Oklahoma Fraternity Closed Due to Video of Racist Chant
abcnews.go.com ^ | March 9, 2015 | By DEAN SCHABNER and DAN GOOD

Posted on 03/09/2015 5:25:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

Sigma Alpha Epsilon's national headquarters closed its chapter at the University of Oklahoma Sunday after a video emerged purportedly showing members of the chapter singing a racist chant.

The video quickly gained visibility online. It was obtained and posted to Twitter by Unheard, which describes itself as "an alliance of Black students organized for change within campus administration and atmosphere," shows young men on a bus chanting "There will never be a n----r at SAE."

The tweet, directed at OU president David Boren, says "Racism is alive at The University of Oklahoma."

Students at the university plan to demonstrate on the Norman, Oklahoma campus at 7:30 a.m. local time. A prayer vigil was held Sunday night.

Chelsea Davis, one of two co-directors of Unheard, said the video was recorded during the weekend. Unheard was begun at the beginning of the semester to demand change, especially relating to diversity issues, Davis said.

"Clearly in that video, that is nothing new. That is nothing that just sparks up overnight. That is a chant that was well known, well versed, and seemed to be okay with everybody that was involved," said Davis, a junior at the university.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: sigmaalphaepsilon; uofoklahoma
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To: Travis McGee

I’m pretty sure it’s the latter.


181 posted on 03/11/2015 8:58:01 PM PDT by Twink
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To: SZonian

Well stated.


182 posted on 03/11/2015 8:58:53 PM PDT by Twink
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To: SVTCobra03

The whole Greek system is in trouble but of course not the “black only” frats and sororities. I wonder why that is? Not really, I know why that is the case.


183 posted on 03/11/2015 9:02:39 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

Their right to Free Speech has not been violated as they have not been charged with a crime and have not been denied any other rights under the Constitution.

They are free to head out to the streets of any American city and chant exactly what they said on that bus.


184 posted on 03/11/2015 9:32:56 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Right because that would happen. Are you really this naive or just stupid?

Have our rights to the so called “free speech”, you know that 1st Amendment, changed in any way? Have you seen how those so called rights have changed?

Sure, they’re free to do that but they would get their asses kicked and the media would support that too. They AREN’T free to express their opinions or thoughts. None of us are unless we align with the PC/Liberal/Communist/Marxist/Victim Mentality of whatever race, illegal immigrant, gender confused, homosexual, perversion du jour, etc. that gets the latest headlines.

You seem to be cool with that. I’m not.

And they aren’t free to express that without negative consequences. You may be living in a bubble but some of us aren’t.

Why is what they said on the bus so offensive? Don’t those people have any self esteem that they get viral and violent about what some college kids said on a bus?


185 posted on 03/11/2015 9:47:37 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Oliviaforever

And they won’t because they literally can’t exercise their 1st A right without being harassed and ruined for life. That is the issue. That’s why people who work in Union only shops, and the Federal and State Government in many States, keep their mouths shut because doing otherwise would get them fired.

You may live and work in a bubble, but some of us don’t, and we are dealing with this on a daily basis. But go ahead and sit in your little ivory tower like most of academia and media and political elite and low info voters who get handed everything.

You have no clue what many of us deal with every day. Of course you don’t. You don’t live and work where we do. So you, and others like you, can kiss my ass. It’s not the liberals or the muslims who are destroying this Country. It’s people like you that are destroying this Country. So you live in your little world where race only matters when it’s the awful white person who is racist when stats show the exact opposite.

I bet you have no clue about the streets of any American city so you can kiss my white ass.


186 posted on 03/11/2015 10:46:33 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

“And they aren’t free to express that without negative consequences.”

The 1st Amendment does not guarantee the right to express views without negative consequence.


187 posted on 03/11/2015 10:52:05 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Oh sweetie I get that. And you still don’t see it. You are hopeless. But at least now, you are transparent.


188 posted on 03/11/2015 10:54:16 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

I have never lived in a city where I was not a racial minority.

I get it.


189 posted on 03/11/2015 10:54:16 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever

Haha. Of course. And again now you are transparent.


190 posted on 03/11/2015 10:54:59 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

Read some of my previous posts and quite a few are about crime and violence here in New Orleans.


191 posted on 03/11/2015 11:53:05 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Twink

You think I’m a “soldier for the left” because I don’t think people should make a joke of hanging blacks?

I am about as far from the left as possible, but I am also a human being who doesn’t appreciate threats of murder. No apologies from me.


192 posted on 03/12/2015 5:42:34 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oliviaforever; Twink

Why should there be any “negative consequence” for free speech?

Why can’t people just walk away either in agreement or disagreement?

See, you really aren’t supporting FREE speech when you condone retribution for speaking words.

Especially in this instance, where none were physically harmed as a result...yet certain FReepers on this thread were just fine with physically punitive measures being taken out against the morons...or is it that they just need to see the football team for an “attitude adjustment”?

Yeah, see? An “attitude adjustment” isn’t a euphemism for a$$ kicking, is it? It’s just a meeting like scared straight. We’re gonna “scare” you into abject compliance with the new politically correct speech.

Nope, just a little “talking to”. Oh wait, that’s another euphemism...hmmm.

Sheesh, pretty damned transparent...


193 posted on 03/12/2015 6:54:41 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: ilovesarah2012; Twink
"... I am also a human being who doesn’t appreciate threats of murder."

But you have no problem advocating/condoning physical violence against those who merely speak words.

No double standard there, nope, no sirree.

194 posted on 03/12/2015 6:57:16 AM PDT by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: SZonian

Two guys were expelled I guess that’s punishment enough.


195 posted on 03/12/2015 7:03:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: PapaBear3625

Racist fraternity chant may not be limited to University of Oklahoma

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-oklahoma-fraternity-racist-chant-20150311-story.html


196 posted on 03/12/2015 7:07:05 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Oliviaforever

You owe Twink no explanation for anything.


197 posted on 03/12/2015 7:15:49 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
I am about as far from the left as possible, but I am also a human being who doesn’t appreciate threats of murder. No apologies from me.

This from the person who started the thread with "I wish these idiot white boys would get the crap beat out of them"

The hypocrisy is thick.

198 posted on 03/12/2015 7:32:57 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Racist fraternity chant may not be limited to University of Oklahoma

From the article:

Tyrone Speller, president of the University of Oklahoma’s Phi Delta Theta chapter, said in a statement Wednesday that the tires of students affiliated with Greek houses have been slashed in recent days and that “indiscriminate threats of violence” have been made toward Greek members.

Earlier this week, the stately mansion that housed SAE was marred by a giant spray-painted message: “Tear it down.”

Speller said the property of other Greek houses and members have also been vandalized.

“When students feel hurt,” Speller said, “they should not turn around and do the same thing in response.... You cannot fight hate with hate.”

The tire slashers appear to be trying to enforce a climate of fear.
199 posted on 03/12/2015 7:37:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
This is really a silly discussion. What I write on FR will in no way cause these clowns to be physically assaulted. You do realize that, don’t you?

And what a bunch a frat boys sing on a bus will not cause white-on-black racial violence. You do realize that, don't you?

Actually, your forwarding the meme that "racist talk" justifies physical violence DOES produce an environment where angry minority members feel justified in engaging in anti-white violence.

Nope, but I have never done anything to get the crap beat out of me.

Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian of Knoxville, Tennessee did not do anything to provoke being assaulted, tortured and murdered. That did not save them.

What is the "knockout game", but a way for a black person to express their anger against whites, by taking out that anger against which ever white person happens to be around?

200 posted on 03/12/2015 7:57:13 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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