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To: WhiskeyX

I cannot find an Article XIII to the Constitution of the United States of America. Are you claiming one?

Because what you are quoting is the Articles of Confederation of the 13 original British colonies of America, formed when they were in rebellion against the Kingdom of Great Britain and had declared their independence.

My understanding is that the Constitution of the United States superseded the Articles of Confederation. Is that wrong?


34 posted on 03/07/2015 3:19:30 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Alas Babylon!

“I cannot find an Article XIII to the Constitution of the United States of America. Are you claiming one?”

No, of course not.

“Because what you are quoting is the Articles of Confederation of the 13 original British colonies of America, formed when they were in rebellion against the Kingdom of Great Britain and had declared their independence.”

“Republican Donkey wrote about, “a union it entered freely,” and the original States established the precedent in law by entering into the a “union it entered freely” with the approval and adoption of the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America.

“My understanding is that the Constitution of the United States superseded the Articles of Confederation. Is that wrong?”

The same Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation provided:

[QUOTE]
Article XIII. Every State shall abide by the determination of the united States in congress assembled, on all questions which by this confederation are submitted to them. And the Articles of this confederation shall be inviolably observed by every State, and the union shall be perpetual; nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.
[UNQUOTE]

In compliance with Article XIII of the Articles of Confederation, the Constitution of the United States of America was also adopted by each State of the perpetual union in strict compliance with the provision mandating “nor shall any alteration at any time hereafter be made in any of them; unless such alteration be agreed to in a congress of the united States, and be afterwards confirmed by the legislatures of every State.” The Constitution of the United States explicitly states in the Preamble: “We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America does it state the constitution of a “less perfect union” than the “union shall be perpetual” provision of the Articles of Confederation being altered by the Constitution of the United States. The Articles of Confederation of the United States of America stated: “Article I. The Stile of this Confederacy shall be “The United States of America.”

Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America did any of the articles repeal or alter the Articles of Confederation and its Article I provision saying The Stile of this Confederacy shall be “The United States of America.”

Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America did any of the articles repeal or alter the legal precedents of the Declaration of Independence or the Treaty of Paris 1783 which established the former British colonies as independent states free to enter into the Articles of Confederation as a perpetual union with the stile of the United States of America.

Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States of America is there an article which abolishes or dissolved the United States of America established by the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America. On the contrary, the Congress and the Preamble of the Constitution of the United States of America are explicit in stating its purpose is to “form a more perfect Union” after already establishing “the union shall be perpetual” as legal precedent with the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America.

The Constitution of the United States of America stated: “Article. VII. The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.” There was a period of time where some of the States in the perpetual union of the United States of America chose not to ratify the Constitution of the United States after nine other States had ratified and brought forth “the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.” As evidenced by history, the Articles of Confederation of the United States of America remained very much in effect after the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.”


43 posted on 03/07/2015 5:17:34 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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