Posted on 03/03/2015 12:02:25 PM PST by gwgn02
"A battle we can win ... tilting at windmills" For the past six years, whenever the establishment GOP has had a chance to fight the Democrats, we've had "moderates" like yourself on this conservative site giving this same sage advice, verbatim, Sir Chicken of Uniparty: urging "discretion", arguing that we should move on the next dispute that Republicrats can flee, handing over to the (here, out-of-power) Democrats another win while you give the same craven recommendation that we concede.
“The GOP do not know how to play hardball. No matter what they do they will never get an even break from the MSM. Not gonna happen. But they can make it more difficult.”
You honestly think the MSM will let you blame Barry for shutting down DHS?
I’ve seen this movie. I’ve read the book. I know how it ends.
Here’s the script for each and every news report:
First story: New reporter saying that the mean, evil, and nasty republicans continue to pass senseless funding bills that they know will be vetoed.
Second story: News reporter standing in front of White House saying that President Obama will veto the latest bill and wants to know why the republicans can’t just pass a clean bill so the hardworking, dedicated, DHS employees, who continue to do their work protecting the country, can get paid for their work defending America from terrorists.
Third Story. Another reporter interviews a DHS employee who has been protecting all of us from terrorists without being paid for 12 weeks. Employee says it’s really tough, he can’t get unemployment benefits since he still technically has a job. Relying upon neighbors and local churches for food. He’s collecting aluminum cans he can sell so he can buy gasoline to get to work defending America. Just wants to know why the republicans can’t just pass a clean bill so a hardworking, dedicated, DHS employee, can continue to do his work protecting the country, and get paid for his work defending America from terrorists.
Fourth story. Reporter interviews employees wife who recounts serving dog biscuits at daughters birthday party but is so proud of her hard working dedicated DHS husband who only wants to do his job and wonders why won’t the mean evil republicans pass a clean bill why the republicans can’t just pass a clean bill so the hardworking, dedicated, DHS employees, who continue to do their work protecting the country, can get paid for their work defending America from terrorists.
After a week of this, you’ll be marching on Washington demanding the republicans pass a clean bill so the hardworking, dedicated, DHS employees, who continue to do their work protecting the country, can get paid for their work.
I blame the Senate Majority leader. Should of made it nuclear and let the idiot in the WH veto it
“For the past six years, whenever the establishment GOP has had a chance to fight the Democrats, we’ve had “moderates” like yourself on this conservative site giving this same sage advice”
First, you have no idea whether I am a ‘moderate’. One can be conservative without wanting to fight useless battles. There never was a chance of winning this battle and anyone who believed so has never read the Constitution. You know that part about requiring 2/3 vote to over ride a veto?
I share your concern about Obama’s executive actions and believe them to be unconstitutional as you do. My point has always been ‘what can we do about it’? What is a viable strategy that will get us a victory? Shutting down the government won’t win us a victory. So what is Plan B?
We all know the GOP will never get an even break from the MSM. So what to do? Nothing? OK then that’s what they are doing.
If the GOP congress wants to slow BHO down then they will have to suspend the filibuster and start passing legislation and sending it to Obama’s desk. Right now they are just caving to every Dem demand. Making a President veto bill after bill after bill is a very different deal. He will start to look bad pretty quickly. Even the MSM will not be able to totally cover his butt.
Right now Barack Obama is running wild and unless he is curtailed by congress he will not stop.
IMO the Congress will continue to do nothing, squander their majority and lose the Senate back in 2016 and possibly the Whitehouse too.
The Republicans are fully complicit, and may history spit their names out through grit teeth.
They know how. They play hardball against conservatives all the time.
I hear nothing but whining all over the net!!!so people when do we march on DC and grab all those mfers and pull them out of their offices and beat some sense into them.... I’m sick and tired of venting on the web all the while those assholes go home and have a good nights rest while the American people suffer!!!!!! Why can’t we united in the thousands and March to the capital and kick them out!!!!! What is stopping us? Have we become wimpy citizens that all we do is bitch and do nothing?..... You guys have no idea how this country is going to change ....the Mexicans do not want to assimilate they want to bring their Mexican culture over here...I
should know I live on a Border town!! Be ready you haven’t seen nothing yet!!! I hope this is enough to give every American freaking nightmares.
LOL! So true. I’m laughing so I don’t cry after this clean immigration bill carpola.
I’m with you on marching over there and cracking some skulls on the spineless politicians.
There are not enough of us who feel the same to outnumber them yet.
“If the GOP congress wants to slow BHO down then they will have to suspend the filibuster and start passing legislation and sending it to Obama’s desk. Right now they are just caving to every Dem demand. Making a President veto bill after bill after bill is a very different deal. He will start to look bad pretty quickly. Even the MSM will not be able to totally cover his butt.”
Excellent idea but remember it can come back to bite you. But, that’s what I’ve been talking about. Starting fights we can win rather than starting fights we will lose. Winning creates it’s own momentum.
BTW, excellent article on WSJ yesterday “Squandering a GOP Majority”. Basically says that Obama did this amnesty thing as boob bait for republicans, an attempt to distract and disrupt. Time for republicans to focus on what they want to do with the majority and get on with it.
No DHS deal with Dems; Boehner's job safe, House Whip Scalise says
John the lier.
First you get some morons to break into an office looking for some blackmail porn and then you get a new president.
There isn't a battle. Nothing more than WWE style by politicians to keep the little people thinking they have a friend in DC.
Didn’t it have to be tied to DHS because immigration falls under DHS’s purview?
Yes - but it didn’t have to come to that.
CRomnibus could have been just until the next Congress when R had majority in both houses. But they put it thru September?
They could have used a 51 majority to make 0bama veto the DHS bill. Hell they still could use the nuclear option to make 0bama veto things continually.
They could have used reconciliation too.
They could defund EPA, EEOC, DOEd., etc. as a stick.
They have done nothing that could have been more successful. Nothing.
The repubs are choosing to not win.
We must have new leadership.
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