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'Gestapo' tactics at US police 'black site' ring alarm from Chicago to Washington
The Guardian ^ | 2/26/2015 | Multiple Authors

Posted on 02/27/2015 6:16:15 AM PST by 2nd amendment mama

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To: OneWingedShark

Without morality, then, we are lost. That is the key. And you are correct. But morality is not completely lost among the tens of thousands of officers appointed to the courts. I have seen exceptions. But the good still out-number the bad. The traction to oppose such wonton disregard for uprightness is often weak among peers and superiors. But egregious violators are yet prosecuted. Humans are imperfect...but still tend toward perfection.

With regard to accused or convicted....accused have the right to be tried by jury. It is incumbent upon the state to make certain that the person accused and arrested is the same person before the court, later in the process. That requires absolute certainty as to identity. The accused is compelled to satisfy the court of identity....especially so that no innocent person be punished. Non- compliance with that necessary and proper safeguard compels custody of the accused.


61 posted on 02/27/2015 11:25:32 PM PST by dasboot
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To: grumpygresh

>>Feds are on track to outdo the Gestapo with their black hearts and technology.

I agree. The Gestapo was so good at what they did because they took an evil ideology (of Progressivism) and multiplied it by German efficiency. Then, the US beat them through even better efficiency. Then, we spent the last 70 years becoming the cold-hearted nation of efficiency experts that we are.

Our Gestapo will definitely outdo theirs.


62 posted on 02/28/2015 5:49:47 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

I’ve lived in Chicago for 30 years and this does not surprise me in the least. Chicago cops have a long history of playing tough with the gang-infested, criminal underclass that comprises a very large part of the city. And the liberal, prosperous, white voters who live mainly on the north side cast a blind eye to police brutality in other parts of the city.


63 posted on 02/28/2015 6:31:22 AM PST by vekzen
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To: dware
I see two major cultural trends occurring in the USA that I believe will eventually have to come to a head.

Look at all the pro-gun movement over the past 30 years, in particular recall the state by state conceal carry law changes over the years, open carry now being passed, and even constitutional carry, and states passing laws that federal gun laws don't apply to guns built and sold in the state. While the feds have been trying to chip away at gun rights for many years, several states have been making major changes to restore our gun rights. Gun ownership is at an all time high despite the feds! Obama is the gun salesman of the century!

Contrast this with the downward spiral into socialism/facism, government spending that is going to break our economy, this administrations open lawlessness, and the fecklessness of the opposition party to do anything about all this. I don't believe our standard of living can be maintained with where our federal government is headed. Americans eventually won't be able to afford to sit on the couch watching tv.

These two trends are in complete opposition with one another. A government run by socialism and corruption cannot maintain itself with such an armed citizenry. It also can't disarm such citizenry without major bloodshed.

How do you reconcile this? How will this will all end?

I understand a huge portion of these couch potatoes, are not going to get up, get their gun, and go do anything. They will probably turn in their guns for food and tv.

But I am convinced there is a small patriot population, that will eventually take action. And history has shown it doesn't take but just a few true warriors.

64 posted on 02/28/2015 8:59:36 AM PST by Bob Mc
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To: dware

“No, there will be no revolt.”

After seeing the Bundy Ranch standoff I’m not so sure about that.


65 posted on 02/28/2015 12:46:09 PM PST by ScottfromNJ
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To: dware

Well said my FRiend, exactly as I have thought for decades. It’s over. If they even give us a choice of bullet, rope, or knife, we should be happy.


66 posted on 02/28/2015 1:42:10 PM PST by CARTOUCHE (Logic is an enemy of the State and truth is a menace to power.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Maybe Jimmy Hoffa’s in there somewhere.


67 posted on 02/28/2015 6:53:37 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: 2nd amendment mama

The Brown shirts of the Left are now here.

Soon the only way to divest ourselves of them will be to fight or flee the country.


68 posted on 03/01/2015 12:55:29 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: 2nd amendment mama

No Surprise at all:

Read this from 2009:

Barak Obama, The Quintessential fascist:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html

And then the country voted for him again for a second term? We deserve every bit the idiot left hands us and then some.


69 posted on 03/01/2015 12:58:20 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: VTenigma

There are legitimate mechanisms to handle MS13 and illegals.

Don’t look the other way — that only enables the regime’s ongoing violations against Constitutional law.


70 posted on 03/01/2015 1:09:21 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Biggirl

Bastille day America?

Seriously, leftists always whine about the monsters they create


71 posted on 03/01/2015 6:04:42 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall no)
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