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To: donjuanluis07

Was the first Bush a RINO? He talked about a New World Order. How about W? Many of us would look at his border policies and “compassionate conservativism” as being RINO like. He didn’t close the border. He didn’t shut down the Dept. of Education. He didn’t slow down the welfare state. On his watch, the debt skyrocketed. He brought in large numbers of Islamic “refugees.” He didn’t find a way to stop unqualified people from getting loans that led to the real estate collapse. He didn’t stop abortion. He didn’t fight the gay mafia. In many ways, he was indeed a RINO.

Here is the sad truth. If we were to find a candidate who believed in all of the policies in which most of us believe — a true conservative — that person is unelectable. Our country has changed since the man I most admire went back to his ranch to live out his years. The left is in control of this country. It begins in kindergarten and goes through college. There is total control by the left in all the social science departments across the country. They control the message in the media. When a majority of people are getting government benefits, they are not going to give them up. We are past the tipping point.

Using the term “Romney-bot” is totally intellectually dishonest. I didn’t want him to win the nomination. I don’t think there are a handful of people here who are Romney-bots. But what many of us saw, without being clairvoyant, was the danger of giving Barack Hussein Obama, four more years. We are watching it unfold. He is unique in our history. He is a man who grew up as a Muslim in a foreign country and hating America. He is not bound by the Constitution. He is truly above the law. Nixonian has been replaced by Obamination.

We are, indeed, on the same side. I am not smearing conservatives. I am as conservative as anyone, being weaned in my teenage years on None Dare Call it Treason, Masters of Deceit, God and Man at Yale, The Conscience of a Conservative, Why Not Victory, McCarthy and his Enemies, etc. Oh, and of course, the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution.

Stand up for your principles. That is certainly a noble trait. I respect someone who could not vote for Romney, but my call is that such was an unwise decision. The clear and present danger of Obama is playing out before our eyes. As I said previously, I would rather be fighting Romney right now than Obama. With all his faults and wrongheaded policies, at least he really does love this country. The Muslim communist’s goal was always to destroy it. He told us he was going to radically transform his country. The country he loathes and wanted to punish. I believed him. If you did not believe his clear and present danger of having four more years, we will just have to respectfully disagree.

On a final note, RINO is properly capitalized. But using capitals in responding to generally thoughtful and intelligent FReepers is condescending. Write with clarity and capitals are not necessary.


344 posted on 02/27/2015 6:14:14 AM PST by doug from upland (Obama and the leftists - destroying our country one day at a time)
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To: doug from upland

Doug, we part ways on this one issue: a Conservative CAN win! You are SO wrong about this. A true, actual Conservative that believes like us CAN absolutely win the nomination and the General Election. This country is NOT Leftist. You and I are being manipulated, scammed, and sabotaged. Our candidates were getting bush wacked in 2008-2010 and that is why I started my unsuccessful little blog, http://www.rinolist.org , in order to give some push back (there I go with the blog pimping again. So ZOT me! Ive been to the other side and back once! Im joking for effect people, please dont ZOT)

My point is, my dear brother in arms, is that the whole concept of HAVING to vote for these guys is completely absurd, because we DONT have to accept poison or shotgun to the face. We can have what we want, but its going to take some pain. We have to start looking out for our people by doing what they do to ours, shoot them before they get out of the gate.

Jeb is definitely going up on the list, as soon as I get some time. And like I told someone else who asked why Christie was not yet on the RINO List, “You have to be a Republican to be a Republican in Name Only.”


346 posted on 02/27/2015 6:23:32 AM PST by donjuanluis07 (Just not that $%#ing RINO Romney)
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To: doug from upland
As I said previously, I would rather be fighting Romney right now than Obama.

It would be a lot harder to fight the titular leader of your party in the White House, than to fight an obvious ogre like Obama in the White Hut, on an issue of principle like gun control. RiNO's do want a ban, a broad ban, on "little people" .... They're just playing coy about it; Pew Associates smelled them out back in 1999 by simply polling them and finding lots of kitten-weak support for gun rights among the "business"/"economic" conservatives, who love a good year-end bonus better than they love their rights IMHO.

Stated categorically, bosses and brokers DO NOT want their underlings and "untermenschen" to own firearms. They would support a property qualification, in fact, for just about every right you can name, but that's a big one.

Imagine asking a congressman to support 2A in the face of a ringing call by President Romney for "sensible" gun control.

Better the enemy keep to his own camp -- it almost forces the Boehners and McCains to oppose a _Resident whose bestest friend wears Che Guevara teeshirts with huge red stars on them.

Madison pointed out in The Federalist that the Greek League was doomed the moment Philip of Macedon, their natural enemy, was allowed to sit in their councils. That's a point worth remembering on several scores, like immigration and "diversity".

376 posted on 02/28/2015 9:00:51 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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