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To: kabar
Whatever gains you are talking about, I see little evidence of any real change

You are missing the weaknesses. Many are very disillusioned with the ACA. This means it will be easier to break up if Obama continues to weaken. And he will. All the things in your list are the same. Unpopular and they need only a new President and keeping the Congress with GOP majorities. Things would switch very rapidly.

He is transforming this country

Well, so did Carter. But it got transformed back.

105 posted on 02/20/2015 3:33:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
You are missing the weaknesses. Many are very disillusioned with the ACA. This means it will be easier to break up if Obama continues to weaken. And he will

You are missing the political reality. The GOP does not have a veto proof majority in Congress. And many RINOs will refuse to take the necessary actions whether it is amnesty or the ACA. Each day that goes by, the more deeply these programs are embedded in the law and practice. The debate will shift to fixing the ACA to make it work better and the GOP will come up with its own amnesty plan. The Dems will never allow the ACA to be replaced or undone. They will not abandon something that they have been trying to get for more than 50 years. And the ACA will eventually be converted to a single payer system similar to Medicare and Medicaid. It is the last remaining piece.

All the things in your list are the same. Unpopular and they need only a new President and keeping the Congress with GOP majorities. Things would switch very rapidly.

You seem to ignore our political system and how it works. You need a super majority in the Senate to pass anything except for certain exceptions. The GOP will need its own nuclear option to do anything. In the case of amnesty, you had 14 GOP senators side with the Dems and pass the Gang of 8 bill. We had a GOP majority in Congress during most of Bush 43's two terms. What did we get under Bush 43? An expansion of Medicare under the Prescription Drug Program, a doubling of the national debt from $5 trillion to $10 trillion; a push by the WH for amnesty; and no reform of the welfare programs, which are driving most of the national debt.

Well, so did Carter. But it got transformed back.

Did Carter pass anything like the ACA? Did he issue executive orders that provided amnesty to millions? Do you really think that Congress will take away the legalization of the 700,000 Dreamers that Obama ordered in 2012? Or the millions more who will receive SSNs and work permits under Obama's recent EO that was temporarily halted by a court order? How will Congress reverse the $8 trillion added to the national debt under the first 6 years of Obama? Or how will Congress reverse gay marriage or gays in the military? Dream on. The GOP leadership is part of the problem, not the solution.

117 posted on 02/21/2015 9:04:50 AM PST by kabar
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I have to say I love your positive outlook. Keep it up, we need some sunshine.


121 posted on 02/21/2015 8:00:05 PM PST by Kenny (,)
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