Posted on 02/17/2015 7:36:42 AM PST by LogicDesigner
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Based on 84 data points from the 85-kWh version of the Model S and six from 60-kWh cars, the study concludes that the Model S will retain about 94 percent of its capacity after 50,000 miles, with losses thereafter shrinking to about 1 percent per 30,000 miles.
That means that after 100,000 miles, the typical Model S is projected to retain about 92 percent of its battery capacity and range.
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There are generally limits on physical space, and on backup power when the capacity of the solar panels is exceeded.
The number of stations that will be deployed will be based on average load, not peak load.
What will happen is that the charge time will be rationed.
You have the wrong brochure.
I don’t like BMW’s personally even tho they are great cars in many ways......so many in the Bimmer crowd are just on an ego trip, and “everyone” has one......but this is one Bimmer I’d love to have.
My Cayman S will still beat it in several areas, but the i8 appears to be a fantastic car. Not bad looking either..... ;-)
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Lucky for her, somebody's daughter should be more than a match for the average guy driving a Volt.
Keep in mind that people will need these stations far less frequently than they need a gas station. All of your day-to-day charging miles come from your garage. Only on the occasional long trip will you need a SuperCharger.
That being said, there are other ways to address the problem. The biggest one is that non-Tesla fast chargers are also being built and Tesla will have an adapter for those. Also, I believe I heard that they may allow you to see on the smartphone app if the stalls at a specific station are in use, but don't quote me on that. It seems like a pretty simple feature to implement though.
Also, I don't think assuming that the number will be based on average rather than peak load is correct. If that were the case there would probably be 1% of the stations that there are now. Same reasoning applies to why there are so many pumps at a gas station.
And your diesel gets a 100% recharge in less than 10 minutes.
And your diesel doesn't eat up prime motive power running heat or air conditioning.
Jus' sayin' ...
Teslas are for wealthy people to park in their garage : )
Consider the source. I’m inclined to call BS!!!
Yep. People who can afford Teslas usually have them for a third or fourth car. Too hot? Too cold? Too far? Take the Mercedes! Who’s going to be even a little uncomfortable if they can afford not to be?
I also do not have $135,000 to buy a car with nor the patience to charge the battery for 40 minutes or more.
I would like to see these electric car drivers go across Minnesota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Utah then Nevada to California like I did in the summertime. Sea level to 8,000ft
All I can think of when I see this picture is of the Russian Aircraft Firm either Tupolev or MIG got thrown in the pockey for 10 years because Stalin had a hair across his butt over the guy. Consider what Stalin did to others, I’d say he got the better end of the deal...
” Who’s going to be even a little uncomfortable if they can afford not to be?”
Great point.
“eat up prime motive power running heat or air conditioning.”
So does the gas engine- but the energy in gas is so concentrated/lb (over 50 times the energy density of a lithium battery) that it can be efficiently carried.
And that’s why ‘all-electric’ cars are just not inherently practical. They’re “concept cars”.
At best a fuel based climate system is needed even if the electric motor is to provide the motive power, and since the fuel is there anyway it’s reasonable to also have a gas engine for power when needed.
Though it may sometimes be efficient to have only the energy for climate control provided by fuel. If a small propane heater would extend the range dramatically it seems a responsible ecar builder should integrate one safely- and PR fantasies be damned.
The heat is a by-product. It must be rejected from the engine to somewhere; in the winter it gets rejected into the cabin.
As wally_bert mentioned, Top Gear’s Clarkson did a segment on the i8 last night, and at the end he said he only got like 32 mpg. Of course he’s a leadfoot, but still...? Sharp car, though.
That argument is irrelevant. The whole point of these SuperChargers is that they would be located along interstates to make long distance driving possible.
Obviously if you never go more than 20 miles from home, you will probably have no need of a SuperCharger.
The smartphone idea is a good one, but useful only if you have the flexibility to choose. If there's only one station within range, you're stuck with it.
Tesla has pushed hard early on to ramp up the number of charging stations as a sales incentive. As the construction rate trails off, and the number of cars increases, that's when the problems will start to crop up.
An engineer is someone who can make for a dollar what any fool could make for two. – Alan Kay
And engineer is someone who designed the computer you’re using to slur engineers.
Perhaps Alan Kay should get out of the classroom and spend some time with actual engineers ...
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