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To: Publius

I think our present U.S. Constitution is just fine, actually.

In looking at the last few amendments, going back to the middle of the last century, I can’t see anything real fundamental that has changed with the U.S. Constitution. If the Constitution hasn’t gone through any radical changes in the last 65 years or so, then where are these problems we’re having right now coming from?

Basically, if it’s not the Constitution (and like I said, nothing major has changed with it in that time period) ... Then it’s coming from “the people” themselves. “The people” are the real problem, and no Constitution can cure them. The people have to cure themselves ... and that will take some time and effort.

SO ... do we go with #1, 2, or 3 ... nope. We go with the same US Constitution which hasn’t fundamentally changed, and we work on changing “the people”.

The problem is with the people.


67 posted on 02/14/2015 1:45:03 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
“Fellow-Traveler”

In case you haven't noticed we're living in what Levin calls a post-Constitutional period....or a living hell.
Only neo jerk obamabots like yourself can't see that.

We're down to two choices that could stem the forces of all out tyranny.

1) Convention of the states or

2) Gun-play, guillotines, and lampposts.

The latter being the most likely outcome.

69 posted on 02/14/2015 2:02:53 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (STERILIZE OBOLA VOTERS)
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To: Star Traveler
The problem dates from the administration of Theodore Roosevelt. TR held the basic concept of federalism in contempt.

This isn't surprising because federalism was discredited by the Civil War. By the end of the war, there were Radical Republicans in Congress who believed that the states should be abolished and the nation consolidated into military districts. Fortunately, those men didn't have major input into the 14th Amendment, which started much of this mischief.

TR believed that the Constitution permitted the federal government to do anything not explicitly forbidden. This was carried forward by Wilson, FDR and those who followed.

"Curing" the people will take generation, and you don't have generations. You don't even have two more years. Thanks to federal overreach, the states are angry, have turned conservative, and are itching for a chance to put the federal leviathan back in the prison Madison designed for it. An Amendments Convention will be our last chance.

Will the Left be present at a convention? Yes. An Amendments Convention will be a snapshot of America at that time and place. Will the Left be strong enough to call the shots? No. I could even see an Amendments Convention failing to report out a single amendment proposal. But that's not important. Once Congress and the political parties see that the states and the people have found a way around them using something the Framers left in the Constitution, they will be on notice that there is only so far they can go before the states rein them in. That would be a salutary development.

72 posted on 02/14/2015 2:17:00 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Star Traveler
In looking at the last few amendments, going back to the middle of the last century, I can’t see anything real fundamental that has changed with the U.S. Constitution. If the Constitution hasn’t gone through any radical changes in the last 65 years or so, then where are these problems we’re having right now coming from?

the 17th Amendment [08 April 1913] fundamentally changed the Union; before senators were representatives of the States — afterwards they became a sort of super-Representative.

I think our present U.S. Constitution is just fine, actually.

I think there are things that really do need addressed:
(1) Taxation — namely it should be uniform with no deductions, credits, write-offs, or exemptions; also, withholdings should be utterly barred.
(2) The ability to accumulate debt (and impose on the States non-funded obligations) should be restricted.

I have amendments addressing these issues, and a few others, here.

108 posted on 02/14/2015 6:17:54 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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