[central_va]

Totally agree. But that will never happen. Once people like those currently in Washington get power, they will never, ever allow anything to take it away from them

It the only way besides secession. The Art V convention is the way to recapture the power. Any other one that doesn't see that is ignorant.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

Any other one that doesn't see that is ignorant.

You are correct. To a point. And I will let the back-handed disdainfulness slide. Though I don't condone it, you have forgotten the final option. And I think you know what I 'speak' of.

Any other one who doesn't see that is fooling themselves.