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Why They Did It: Understanding the hundreds of looters after Ferguson
KTVI-TV ^ | February 11, 2015 | Rebecca Roberts

Posted on 02/12/2015 4:45:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

FERGUSON, MO (KTVI) – For the past five weeks, FOX 2 has worked with St. Louis County police to show surveillance footage of hundreds of criminals looting businesses in the Ferguson aftermath.

The goal is to identify these looters, but these videos also provide a unique opportunity for law enforcement and criminologists to take a closer look at their behavior.

On August 10th, the day after Michael Brown was shot; several people broke through the security gate outside prime sole shoe store on West Florissant. Throughout the 14-minute surveillance video, people casually walk in, grab Jordans, then other Nikes, and walk out. It’s calm and organized.

Eighty-seven people took advantage of this business that night.

Dr. Remy Cross is a Webster University Criminology professor, who specializes in illegal group behaviors....

(Excerpt) Read more at fox2now.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: blacks; crime; ferguson; gibsmedat; looters; missouri; thegibs
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Each and every one of those looters is fearfully and wonderfully made in God’s image. Their actions are a testimony to the state of this lost and fallen world. Some are not recoverable.

Sadly, many of them are victims of a system that teaches them to be lazy, and disrespectful to the very source of their food and shelter. That is the TRUE evil.

However, now that they are damaged, its result is to do damage to others with no compassion for their victims whatsoever. And many of them are lost beyond repair.

Want to help these people or at least ensure that fewer end up like them? Abolish the welfare state. It is literally their only hope (other than the Grace of Christ).


41 posted on 02/12/2015 5:55:34 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Nervous Tick - you nailed it. Did you get grant money for your longitudinal study?? Should have ....


42 posted on 02/12/2015 5:57:21 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: cripplecreek
“Seems that his neighbors were aggressively demanding their “share” so police were forced to move he and his girlfriend to a better neighborhood.”

Tragic, but not surprising. We desperately need a very visible national debate about what ‘fair’ and ‘fair share’ really mean. What's fair? What is a ‘fair share’? These words/terms have been thrown about by the left, and by this administration, ad nauseam, and are used as bullets in endless efforts to stoke class warfare.

43 posted on 02/12/2015 6:06:07 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dr. Remy Cross is a Webster University Criminology professor, who specializes in illegal group behaviors

Is that the politically correct way to say illegal ethnic group behaviors?

44 posted on 02/12/2015 6:07:59 AM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Back in the last century before Nikes and Jordans were around, when Colonel Sanders was still flipping hamburgers at Mickey D’s, and I was just a little kid, looters used to steal our chickens. Yes, live squawking chickens.

Dad would hear a ruckus in the middle of the night coming from our hen house on the back alley of our place. When he investigated, he found some two legged varmit grabbing chickens off the roost and sprinting down down the alley, feathers flying, with a chicken in each hand. Over time, we began to lose all our chickens. Our chicken house had become a target for chicken thieves.

Needless to say, dad was very upset because back then stealing a chicken or two was taking food from our mouths. So he comes home one day with a pistol and some ammo. Next raid on the chicken house he goes out on the back porch and calmly fires a few random rounds into the old chicken house. And guess what, one of those Olympic-style sprinters emerges and breaks running down the alley at full speed empty handed.

Now this was before cell phones and social media, but the word seem to get around to avoid our chicken house. We lost very few chickens from then on. Same thing for gas siphoning which used to be the other problem we experienced.

If I were to say these looters were black, you would call me a racist. If I were to say I was born in Texas, you would call me a racist anyway. I’m sorry, but back then I didn’t know I was a racist. I was just a kid. I’m glad to see how far our relationships with the black community have progressed since the last century. At least back then, they had to “work” for their chicken dinner. Now the government promises them a free chicken dinner. Ain’t progress great.

Oh and while I’m on the subject of farm animals and racism, don’t ever leave your goat unattended in Texas...


45 posted on 02/12/2015 6:12:58 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
The media isn't all that interested now because that might be seen as casting aspersions on Robertson's neighbors.

Detroit man whose 21-mile walk to work inspired $350,000 in donations moves to temporary home

I knew there was going to be trouble because he lived in the worst part of town. He would have been OK if he lived closer to downtown or outside the city limits but both are much more expensive and $350,000 is not that much money.
46 posted on 02/12/2015 6:15:29 AM PST by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Primitive minds exercising primitive urges with no concept of right and wrong, but a strong concept of victim-hood despite a total lack of it.


47 posted on 02/12/2015 6:25:47 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

free stuff


48 posted on 02/12/2015 6:27:16 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"a unique opportunity for law enforcement and criminologists to take a closer look at their behavior.

I am going to go out on a limb and suggest that cops who work 24/7 in the neighborhoods that breed this vermin, don't need to look at a video to examine their behavior. We really need to eliminate the vast majority of the pseudo-smart people, and put accomplished people in charge.

49 posted on 02/12/2015 6:34:20 AM PST by Yogafist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Because they’re scumbags without scruples?


50 posted on 02/12/2015 6:38:33 AM PST by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. – Robert Heinlein)
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To: Texicanus

:) I enjoyed your post! My Dad did the same thing when I was a kid; sat in our bedroom window several nights watching the hen house until the thief made another attempt. He fired directly into the hen house. If he had been successful in wounding or even killing the thief; there would certainly have been no charges and no questions asked in those times. One had the unquestioned right to protect one’s property in those days. Dad would gladly have given anyone food if they came to the door and asked
but he wouldn’t tolerate anyone stealing from him.


51 posted on 02/12/2015 6:49:12 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You want to explain it? Put some food on the ground and watch the ants. Bingo! What did the ants do to “earn” the food? Nothing, but they end up with it just the same because its there. The second video sums this up perfectly “black ants and plunder”.


52 posted on 02/12/2015 6:53:01 AM PST by rhubarbk (Cruz/Walker or Walker/Cruz . . . either one works for me!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Gibsmedat!”

So much for sociology.


53 posted on 02/12/2015 7:00:32 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Buffalo Bob

Rawhiiiiiiiiiiiide!


54 posted on 02/12/2015 7:38:04 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie

Thanks. My dad would have given them food too if they had asked. These were post-WW II days and life was harder. Stealing anything was a last resort of desperate people or criminals. People, like my dad, worked hard (no government handouts) to acquire what little they had and defended their property and lives by whatever justifiable means were necessary. In other words, daily life was more “hands on” and people were more responsible for their lives.

My life has been much easier than my parents but the hard lessons I was taught as a kid still remain. The millennial generation has no idea how much things have changed during my lifetime. They view life more as a “spectator sport” and complain and blame others when their government does not resolve every problem and provide for their every need. Their lack of involvement and responsibility will be their downfall.

Looting as a form of reparations for racial injustices of the past is just another issue that is acceptable in our progressive society today. That is, until it’s your Nikes or Jordans. Then you have to decide whether it’s worth a life.

Again thanks, :)


55 posted on 02/12/2015 7:57:22 AM PST by Texicanus (Texas, it's like a whole 'nother country.)
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To: cripplecreek
Decades of being taught that something is owed to them.

Absolutely correct! In their eyes, all they were doing was collecting their stuff. They have been raised within an enviroment created by government that has trained them, not to be self-sufficent, but rather to be dependent upon the good graces of government. There are no fathers anymore, because fathers are not needed. ..Obama is their father and the hordes of baby mommas are cranking out Obama devotees by the bushel. Obama has been telling them now for years that "the rich are not giving their fair share" so. . .when the economy finally does collapse, Obama's children will be predisposed to blame "the rich" for "stealing" THEIR STUFF!!. ..and you know what happens next?

Consider the fate of Zimbabwe. . .I was there in 1990. ..every middle class (mostly white) neighborhoods were surrounded by brick walls and high barbed wire fences on top of the brick walls. . .every house, likewise, was hidden behind cement walls and gates. . . and yes, they were very well armed.

When the goverment largess runs dry and there is no more money for food stamps, welfare, section 8 housing, Obama phones, free this and free that. . . and several million Michael Browns and Treyvon Martins and other feral youth. . that have never known displine or respect for laws, principles or authority are then unleased upon society. . .what do you think will happen?. . .call 911?. . .you will only get a busy signal. . .so you better get busy training and arming yourselves for what will soon this way come.

56 posted on 02/12/2015 8:03:27 AM PST by McBuff
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell it to the Judge.

DUDE!! The doors was open.

They even had FIRE SALE signs in the windows, what was left of ‘em...


57 posted on 02/12/2015 9:11:17 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I imagine that the local book store was safe.


58 posted on 02/12/2015 9:17:34 AM PST by mowowie (`)
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To: McBuff

The oligarchs are depending upon gun owners to clean up the gibmedats when the collapse arrives. The gibmedats are too dumbed down to realize that they are but a means to an end of the Republic which has given them so much. They are the dregs of humankind ot the oligarchs. Once the gun owners, at least the survivors among us, have cleaned out most of the gibmedats who will be starving without government handouts and will be shot and slaughtered as they try to take the food right out of your mouth, the oligarchs will send in the forces they have been arming with the billions of bullets and MRAPs, to ‘pacify’ the survivors. it is the way of satan. It is the Chicago Way don’tchaknow.


59 posted on 02/12/2015 10:09:40 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ah, because they are a herd of feral scum? [Not that I would want to give scum a bad name because it has a useful, though disgusting, purpose. The Ferguson rioters, looters, and arsonists do not.]


60 posted on 02/12/2015 11:10:24 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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