Scott Walker Would Be the Most Conservative GOP Candidate Since Goldwater

Mother Jones ^ | February 11, 2015 | Kevin Drum

[Cincinatus' Wife]

For those of us who are sort of fascinated by the rise of Scott Walker as a Republican presidential contender, here's an interesting chart from Jason McDaniel, a political science professor at San Francisco State University. It shows the relative conservative-ness of GOP presidential nominees in the past six contested elections, and it demonstrates what an outlier Walker would be if he won next year's primary: he'd be the first candidate since Ronald Reagan who's more conservative than the average of the Republican field.

And by McDaniel's measure, he'd actually be the most conservative recent nominee, period—even more right-wing than Reagan:

Walker is well to the right end of the conservative spectrum, residing in the ideological neighborhood of Ted Cruz and Rand Paul....It is not a stretch to argue that if nominated, Walker would be the most conservative Republican nominee since Barry Goldwater in 1964.

....In contrast, Jeb Bush’s ideological position closely resembles previous Republican nominees. Bush most closely resembles John McCain in 2008....In Scott Walker versus Jeb Bush, party elites and primary voters are presented with clearly contrasting visions of the future direction of the Republican party....If the recent history of Republican nomination contests is any guide, the party is likely to decide that Scott Walker is too ideologically extreme to be the Republican nominee in 2016.

Of course, the fact that this chart seems surprising is one of Walker's big strengths. He may be as conservative as, say, Ted Cruz or Rand Paul, but he doesn't seem as conservative. He doesn't have Cruz's bombast and he doesn't go around hinting that we should go back to the gold standard, like Rand Paul. In practice, that may put him closer to the center of the field than his actual positions warrant.

Still, McDaniel's data is worth taking note of. If Walker remains hardnosed in his views, it may be hard to hide this from the voters. Eventually he's going to say something that will cause the Jeb Bushes and Chris Christies to pounce, and that might expose him as too much of an ideologue to win the mainstream Republican vote. It all depends on how well he learns to dog whistle and tap dance at the same time. But then, that's true of everyone running for president, isn't it?

[Yosemitest]

"But many of us are tired of Dems winning
getting what they want
and all we get is
to hear blame and finger pointing
instead of results."

Yeah, you idiots keep voting for whomever the LAME Stream Media sell you ("ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS"),
and then you wonder WHY you do NOT get RESULTS you wanted.
Stupid idiots, you ARE getting the results you voted for, and that's to be LIED TO.

[sickoflibs]

RE:”You think Walker will win, being PRO AMNESTY?
Dream on”

I cant predict if he would beat an unknown Dem in 2016.
No one knows that now.

But right now he looks like our best bet to beat off Bush and Christie and still win in a general election.

He is the most conservative Republican potential candidate we have as an option if we also consider his results beating the crap out of Dems like on laws passed.

So far no one else comes close to his accomplishments.

A Liberal Teacher explains Union Busting (Scott Walker Tribute)

Find someone else who has proved himself better and I will consider him.

[Yosemitest]

"... he LOOKS LIKE our best bet to beat off Bush and Christie and still win in a general election.

He is the most conservative Republican potential candidate we have as an option IF we ALSO consider his results
beating the crap out of Dems like on laws passed."

WRONG ON BOTH ACCOUNTS.
YOU may THINK he "looks like our best to beat off" the competition.
But MANY of us ... DON'T .

TED CRUZ !
He's the ONLY CHOICE that will WIN !
ALL OTHERS ... WILL LOSE.

[sickoflibs]

RE :” He is the most conservative Republican potential candidate we have as an option if we also consider his results beating the crap out of Dems like on laws passed.
So far no one else comes close to his accomplishments.
Find someone else who has proved himself better and I will consider him......
.........
........TED CRUZ !He's the ONLY CHOICE that will WIN !”

LOL, I heard the same silliness over and over about Palin here in 2011 and she didnt even run.

I said “FIND SOMEONE WHO HAS SHOWN HIMSELF TO BEAT DEMS”

This is NOT winning, its an excuse, its blaming. We want a winner.

Ted Cruz Blames GOP Leaders For Failing Strategy To Stop Obama On Immigration talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 2/10/15

[Yosemitest]

Read it from someone else:

... he’s [Scott Walker] not really opposed to doing this amnesty for the illegals already here.
He’s really good on closing the border, he’s excellent on border security,
but he’s also got a position here on Obama’s executive amnesty that bothers some people.
He’s certainly not as solid on that as your guy Ted Cruz is.”

[Yosemitest]

"Ted Cruz Blames GOP Leaders For Failing Strategy To Stop Obama On Immigration

What PART of that IS NOT TRUE ? ? ?

Cruz added:
"My views have been clear and explicit from the beginning.
Congress should use every constitutional check and balance we have to rein in the UNCONSTITUTIONAL and ILLEGALl executive amnesty from President Obama.
That includes using the power of the purse —
although with the 'cromnibus' WE'VE GIVEN AWAY VIRTUALLY ALL OF OUR LEVERAGE, by already funding almost the entirety of the federal government.
... And for a couple of months now I have called on the new majority leader to publicly announce that
the Senate will NOT CONFIRM ANY NOMINEES, executive or judicial,
other than vital national security positions,
unless and until the president RESCINDS HIS UNCONSTITUTIONAL AMNESTY."

The GOP strategy was crafted under pressure from Cruz and others, MOST NOTABLY Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and a faction of deeply conservative House Republicans,
as a way to take on Obama while avoiding a government shutdown back in December.

Now that's MY KIND OF CANDIDATE !
Take your "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" APPEASING Scott Walker and go back to the drawing board.

HELL NO, I will NOT vote for a PRO AMNESTY candidate ! ! !

[Yosemitest]

" ... its an excuse, its blaming.
We want a winner."

No, you want a "Go along, to GET ALONG" candidate !
You want a COMPROMISER, a dirty, stinking COMPROMISER !

[sickoflibs]

RE:”No, you want a “Go along, to GET ALONG” candidate !
You want a COMPROMISER, a dirty, stinking COMPROMISER ! “

If Walker was a compromiser the Dems wouldn't have tried to shut down the government and recall him to stop him.

In Each battle he whipped Dems butts and took away their power. That is why they are doing everything they can to destroy him, they might even have a few plants here.,

In contrast this is NOT winning, its loser and whining:
Ted Cruz Blames GOP Leaders For Failing Strategy To Stop Obama On Immigration talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 2/10/15 | Sahil Kapur

We want someone who WILL beat Dems, NOT lose to them and whine about it.

[Yosemitest]

Like I said,

”You want a “Go along, to GET ALONG” candidate !
You want a COMPROMISER, a dirty, stinking COMPROMISER ! “

Are the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" PAYING YOU to make these posts, to support an AMNESTY Candidate ?

You don't want a REAL Conservative.

You want CHEAPER WAGES for American Citizens.
And YOU WANT more WASTED TAX DOLLARS going to SUPPORT ILLEGAL ALIENS,
who are TAKING JOBS FROM American Citizens,
and spreading DEATH and DISEASE throughout our country.

[Yosemitest]

Why don't you ANSWER Comment #106 ?
You CAN'T, because the TRUTH Ted Cruz presented in that statement BLOWS your AMNESTY SUPPORTING Scott Walker out of the contest !
But "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICAN" SUPPORTERS like you want to cover up his truth , and do it quickly.

[sickoflibs]

RE:”Why don't you ANSWER Comment #106 ?
You CAN'T, because the TRUTH Ted Cruz presented in that statement BLOWS your AMNESTY SUPPORTING Scott Walker out of the contest !”

The answer to #106 is that its whining and excuse making.

The point is we want someone who has proved themselves to destroy Dems, not to lose to them over and over and blame others. Walker has beat the crap out of them multiple times, a winner doesnt need excuses.

We want a leader, not an excuse maker.

[sickoflibs]

RE:”No, you want a “Go along, to GET ALONG” candidate !
You want a COMPROMISER, a dirty, stinking COMPROMISER !

I hate when that happens, check out this GOP Senator working with a liberal, it makes me sick. ...its treason

[Yosemitest]

Deram on, your "point" is useless from a LIBERAL State.
Anyone can sell AMNESTY to a bunch of LIBERALS.
Why don't you just admit that you're NOT a conservative, and the thought of PRESIDENT Cruz drives you off the deep end?
And as far as "excuses", they're just FACTS !
The "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" are OUR ENEMIES, and so are those who support them !
You're the one who WHINES. because your AMNESTY BOY has been RIGHTFULLY EXPOSED.

[sauropod]

Oh man! That graphic is priceless!

[afraidfortherepublic]

Mother Jones classifies Scott Walker as most conservative GOP candidate since Goldwater. (I’m sure they are trying to sink his candidacy.)

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

[afraidfortherepublic]

Give it up. Walker is NOT pro-amnesty. I’m not saying that he is the best candidate for President (because I’d like to keep him in WI for another 4 years) but he’s right up there with the best.

[cornelis]

Robby George to Scott Walker: Where is your conscience?

Prof. Robert George, founder of APP, released this statement after watching Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s interview with Chris Wallace on Sunday:

The Republican Party was born of the witness of the “Conscience Whigs” in defiance of the slave power. That is our moral heritage. Today, when the great moral cause of our time is securing the right to life of the child in the womb, we need the witness of Conscience Republicans.

A Conscience Republican would treat Roe v. Wade the way Abraham Lincoln treated the pro-slavery Supreme Court decision of Dred Scott v. Sandford.

A Conscience Republican would refuse to treat the abominable principle of Roe—that the child in the womb has no rights which others need to respect—as binding on the president or Congress.

A Conscience Republican, if elected President, would defy that principle in the ways Lincoln as President defied the equally abominable principle of Dred Scott.

A Conscience Republican would not bow down before a usurpative and anti-constitutional edict of the Supreme Court.

A Conscience Republican would stand with the Founding Fathers and Lincoln for constitutional supremacy and against Dred Scott’s doctrine of judicial supremacy.

A Conscience Republican would lead the effort to enact legislation, pursuant to Congress’s authority under sections 1 and 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, to protect the basic human rights of the child in the womb and provide the Supreme Court with an opportunity to reverse its appalling ruling in Roe v. Wade.

What we at the American Principles Project—and millions of pro-life conservative Americans—are looking for in a nominee and in a President is a Conscience Republican.

Maggie Gallagher is the editor of ThePulse2016.com.

[sgtyork]

...rock-ribbed Republican Wisconsin, the Texas of the Midwest.

Home of Fighting Bob La Follette progressive firebrand and public unions!

[sgtyork]

You were even in support of his recall and hoped he lost.

How do we know that some one like this Yosemite guy isn’t a Hillary troll? This is going to be an information warfare election?

[Yosemitest]

I quote Scott Walker and his PRO-AMNESTY position:

Endorses path to citizenship for immigrant workers

Scott Walker distanced himself from House Republicans debating a new immigration bill by endorsing a path to citizenship for immigrant workers.Walker acknowledged that a substantial number of Wisconsin farms depend on migrant workers, some of them here illegally.
He also was sharply critical of how difficult the federal government makes it for those workers to come to this country.
"If people want to come here and work hard and benefit, I don't care whether they come from Mexico or Ireland or Germany or Canada or South Africa or anywhere else," he said.
"I want them here."
The Democratic-led U.S. Senate passed an immigration bill last week that features a path to citizenship for millions of illegal immigrants already in the U.S.
Many conservative House Republicans oppose the bill, viewing it as rewarding law-breakers.
He said as a gubernatorial candidate in 2010 that he would sign an Arizona-style bill, which would allow local police to stop suspected illegal immigrants.
Source: Wisconsin Rapids Tribune, "Endorses path to citizenship" , Jul 3, 2013

Make it easier to enter the country legally

Walker said he is in favor of the Senate immigration bill--that features a path to citizenship--but called it a backward "Band-Aid" approach,
saying elected leaders should make it easier for people to enter the country and become legal citizens in the first place.
"Not only do they need to fix things for people already here, or find some way to do it, there's got to be a larger way to fix the system in the first place," he said.
"Because if it wasn't so cumbersome, if there wasn't such a long wait, if it wasn't so difficult to get in, we wouldn't have the other problems that we have (with people living here illegally)," he said.
Walker's stance on immigration reform evolved over the years.
Source: Wisconsin Rapids Tribune, "Endorses path to citizenship" , Jul 3, 2013

2010: stop suspected illegals; 2012: that's a distraction

Walker's stance on immigration reform evolved over the years.
He said as a gubernatorial candidate in 2010 that he would sign an Arizona-style bill, which would allow local police to stop suspected illegal immigrants, if he were elected.
Then, in December 2012, Walker said he no longer favored such a bill, telling reporters that such legislation would become a "huge distraction" from accomplishing his agenda for the state.
Today, Walker said he would support a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants under some circumstances.
Source: Wisconsin Rapids Tribune, "Endorses path to citizenship" , Jul 3, 2013

In short, you can't trust him.
He'll sell out to the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" !