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California formally opens large solar plant
Associated Press ^ | Feb 9, 2015 5:48 PM EST

Posted on 02/09/2015 3:26:24 PM PST by Olog-hai

One of the nation’s largest solar projects was dedicated Monday in the Riverside County desert, as California rushes to expand its use of green power to meet the state’s renewable energy requirements.

The dedication of the Desert Sunlight Solar Farm comes about a month after Gov. Jerry Brown called on the state to increase renewable electricity use to 50 percent by 2030, up from the current goal of 33 percent by 2020. […]

The plant, which uses photovoltaic panels, is expected to produce enough power for about 160,000 homes. Constructed on about 4,000 acres of federal land, it is owned by NextEra Energy Resources, GE Energy Financial Services and Sumitomo Corporation of America. First Solar is building and operating the plant, the California Energy Commission said. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: climatechangehoax; globalwarminghoax; greenenergy; solarplant
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To: bubbacluck

Actually, that’s the Ivanpah Solar Thermal Plant (rather than photovoltaic cell plant), which is in the Mojave Desert close to Las Vegas. Solar thermal plants use heat derived from the sun to create steam, which is then used to turn turbines to generate AC power

This new one is in the Sonoran Desert. Photovoltaic cells generate DC power, and there are going to be inherent losses due to needing to invert the DC power to AC for transmission.


21 posted on 02/09/2015 4:03:15 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

All of these are money siphons


22 posted on 02/09/2015 4:03:54 PM PST by GeronL
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To: SZonian

Ah well . . . what with this being desert land, that just may fit into the “cultivation of wastelands” part of the Ten Planks of Communism.


23 posted on 02/09/2015 4:05:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Those damned commies aren’t around in the desert during the Spring...it isn’t a wasteland...

But in the interests of “progress”...Desert Tortoises are expendable.


24 posted on 02/09/2015 4:09:03 PM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: Olog-hai

High-tech bird fryer. But hey, it’s “green”.


25 posted on 02/09/2015 4:23:03 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: SZonian

good point SZonian.
The article makes no mention of storage batteries either.
Without them duplicate generation must be maintained.
(You know for minor things like clouds, storms and night.)
Double the systems = double the cost.


26 posted on 02/09/2015 4:24:03 PM PST by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: Olog-hai

I suppose those 160,000 homes all go to bed at sundown.


27 posted on 02/09/2015 4:27:53 PM PST by jyro (French-like Democrats wave the white flag of surrender while we are winning)
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To: Mastador1

“The plant, which uses photovoltaic panels....”

Read the article before responding.


28 posted on 02/09/2015 4:35:13 PM PST by Team Cuda
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To: oldtech
>"Who gets subsidized for this?"

Kenny Rogers Roasters

29 posted on 02/09/2015 4:38:35 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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To: Olog-hai

Gee i wonder where those thousands of solar panels were built.....


30 posted on 02/09/2015 4:40:35 PM PST by mowowie (`)
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To: Team Cuda; Mastador1; All
Turns out that Desert Sunlight, the photovoltaic plant herein referenced, has already killed birds, in fact.
31 posted on 02/09/2015 4:42:25 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Mastador1
I understand that you can get freshly incinerated endangered and protected migratory fowl in the gift shop.

Not the way photovoltaic systems work. No fried birds.

32 posted on 02/09/2015 5:09:45 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Olog-hai
Turns out that Desert Sunlight, the photovoltaic plant herein referenced, has already killed birds, in fact.

That part of the article is bullshit.. The birds would have to dive head first into panels to die. No way to burn them.

33 posted on 02/09/2015 5:20:19 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: Olog-hai

“160,000 homes”

Roughly about 1/4 of what a single nuke reactor or large coal plant can produce.

Try again California.


34 posted on 02/09/2015 5:20:22 PM PST by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win.)
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To: yoe

These people are bleeping crazy.

Four thousand acres shot to hell.

Birds and game killed, broiled, heedlessly.

Taxpayer money goes to start the thing, run the thing, endlessly repair the thing.

It is insanity on display and it is cheered by those who supposedly cherish the land, wildlife, small and beautiful technology, and independence from a giant, monstrous government.

The world has gone beserk.


35 posted on 02/09/2015 5:30:24 PM PST by Fightin Whitey
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Well, for Desert Sunlight’s sake, it’d better be false.


36 posted on 02/09/2015 5:31:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Maybe they can get some of those coal miners from West Virginia to move out there and take “high paying high tech jobs” washing solar panels at $8.00 a hour.


37 posted on 02/09/2015 5:34:11 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Benghazi Clinton killed 4 & injured a dozen as SOS, imagine what she could do as CinC.)
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To: Team Cuda

Oh my gosh did I step on the solar gods toes with sarcasm, abashed am I!


38 posted on 02/09/2015 6:02:46 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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Yep, them solar panels are worse than reflector/boiler plants. Them panels have to get their wattage from somewhere, so you know that they suck the wattage right out of the birds. Kills 'em all deader'n door nails. And the suckage attracts all of the birds in the world to that location, just like a whirlpool of seduction. Purty soon, there won't be no birds a'tall. This here tells the whole story.


39 posted on 02/09/2015 6:32:49 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Olog-hai
Photo-voltaic panels don't kill birds. The following instruction is great for kids, administrators and journalists known by their initials instead of their whole first names.

How do Photovoltaics Work?
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2002/solarcells/


40 posted on 02/09/2015 7:04:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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