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To: Enlightened1

There appear to be 2 parallel arguments on this thread:

1. Vaccines are oppressive and represent overreach by the government. I don’t agree with this. Without question, the anti-vaccination movement creates more risk (morbidity and mortality) for the population than the vaccination proponents ever will. But, I’m a physician (who gains nothing from promoting vaccination) and perhaps I drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago.
2. Illegals created the current measles outbreak. That may be true, but doesn’t that support the argument that vaccination — not occurring enough in the country from which the illegals derive — would be advisable for most people? Are those who support fewer vaccinations (or, at least, the choice to not vaccinate) advocating for a society with pediatric morbidity and mortality more in line with that of a third world country?

It should be noted that the government in some states is not “forcing vaccination” on children. Only children who attend public schools. Knowing what I know from my medical education I would prefer such a policy in place at the schools to which I send my children (who all, BTW, are vaccinated).


38 posted on 02/03/2015 9:34:35 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: BlueStateRightist

Just read wikipage for “list of vaccine ingredients” or get it straight from the CDC site.

Depending on which vaccine you accept, here is what you can expect to be injected STRAIGHT into your body:

-thimerosal (aka. mercury)
-aluminum
-formaldehyde
-castor oil
-FD&C Yellow #6 aluminum lake dye
-human serum (puss from humans)
-fetal bovine serum (puss from cows)
-bovine extract (more cow puss)
-monosodium glutamate (the toxin MSG)
-monkey kidney cells (puss from monkey, aka. Vero)
-calf serum (more cow puss)
-ethanol
-”detergent” (with no other description)
-insect cell, bacterial, and viral protein (no joke, HPV vaccine)
-potassium chloride (used in lethal injection, death penalty)
-egg proteins
-chick embryo cell culture (puss)
-human diploid lung fibroblasts
-DNA from porcine circoviruses (viruses grown in pig puss)
-bovine muscle tissue
-embryonic guinea pig cells (puss)
-sorbitol

... and including more chemicals than you could study in a year.


48 posted on 02/03/2015 10:02:51 AM PST by Enlightened1
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To: BlueStateRightist
1. Vaccines are oppressive and represent overreach by the government. I don’t agree with this. Without question, the anti-vaccination movement creates more risk (morbidity and mortality) for the population than the vaccination proponents ever will. But, I’m a physician (who gains nothing from promoting vaccination) and perhaps I drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago.

MANDATORY Vaccines are oppressive and represent overreach by the government. Do you seriously want to give the feds the power to inject chemicals into your child's body without your consent? Is this what passes for liberty now?
87 posted on 02/04/2015 7:06:10 AM PST by DarkSavant
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