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To: Boogieman

I think you are being deliberately obtuse. The issue isn’t whether or not vaccines would vaccinate a newborn. The issue is whether or not all newborns NEED a STD (or IV Drug use) vaccine at all. As another poster said here, it has everything to do with the lowest common denominator and not science.

TPTB do not want to say “this specific % of the population is at risk and should/must have the Hep B vaccine.” So, due to their cowardice (and likely their avarice as well) they decree everyone should have it. Again, this is exactly the same thing we are facing in our “war on terror.” Afraid to follow the proven model of profiling the % of people most likely to pose a risk means everyone gets treated like a terrorist, to avoid offending terrorists. Both are insane and both should be questioned by the sane.

You really need to read up on vaccines if you think they last for 20 years. There is documentation that vaccines start diminishing in effectiveness in as little as two years and that you may have no protection whatsoever after 7-14 years.

RE Gardisil there are over 100 types of HPV. Gardisil is a false sense of security. ALthough I am sure that they are working on vaccines for all the types and it will soon be part of the vaccine schedule as well.

Bottom line, everyone should be afraid of over vaccination creep. It is unfolding right in front of us. We are currently the most vaccinated country on the planet. We are also the most chronically ill and disabled. Newborns get 72 shots by the time they are 18. Right now they get 7 shots at 2 mos of age and 8 more at 4 mos. The average person in their 40’s and 50’s had 7 shots spaced out, much later in life. The CDC’s own guidelines used to be no more than 4 shots at once. They doubled it in 2013 to 8.


173 posted on 02/03/2015 12:52:40 PM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: 1malumprohibitum

“The issue is whether or not all newborns NEED a STD (or IV Drug use) vaccine at all.”

No, that’s not the issue, that’s just what you want the issue to be. The fact is that nobody needs any vaccinations, because they are preventative medicine, not treatments. So your question is not sensible.

“You really need to read up on vaccines if you think they last for 20 years.”

That is the minimum (not maximum, minimum) effective life of that particular vaccine, so no, I don’t think I need to “read up”.

“RE Gardisil there are over 100 types of HPV”

Besides the point. I mentioned it only to illustrate that it doesn’t matter when you propose to administer a vaccination, the anti-vaxxers will always object, because they aren’t objecting based on reason, just on emotion. So there is no point trying to please them, because you won’t be able to.

“We are also the most chronically ill and disabled.”

Ha! Perhaps if there was not a lifetime government subsidy for being “disabled”, our numbers would fall back in line with the rest of the world. Control for that, then get back to me.


175 posted on 02/03/2015 1:28:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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